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re: WPTV: Solar plants draw concerns from Louisiana farmers, officials
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:06 pm to Tigeralum2008
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:06 pm to Tigeralum2008
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landscaping, cleaning the cells, periodic cell replacement, controller maintenance, security, perimeter maintenance
Not a BASF/Dow/Motiva sized benefit but it can certainly benefit small businesses
The farm in WBR is slated to create between 1-6 permanent jobs. They’re employing more Mexican farm workers currently as a cane/ soy bean operation and it’s not even grinding season.
The only benefactors in this are the landowner and solar company.
But the taxpayers are gonna get stuck with all the bills. Again.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:07 pm to LSU316
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I can tellyou this solar panels make more money for the landowners than beans, rice, crawfish, etc....maybe sugar cane is a more lucrative crop but everything else gets beat easily by the payments that solar companies are making.
Lovely.
So we trash the environment with heavy metals and dirty manufacturing and mining processes. And as a bonus we reduce the food supply and drive up the price.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:07 pm to jimbeam
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I take mercury supplements daily. It’s fine.
Fun fact: the Lewis and Clark expedition used mercury based medicines for a variety of ailments. Archaelogists have been able to find their campsites by looking for traces of mercury in the latrines.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:09 pm to ragincajun03
Our fearless environmentalists require that nuclear plants carefully remove their waste material when they shut down. It costs nearly as much to decommission a nuke as it does to operate one.
Are they approaching solar panels with the same concern for the environment? If not, why is there no concern over what will become of these giants farms after 20-30 years - when they will need some expensive overhauls and these subsidies are scaled back?
Are they approaching solar panels with the same concern for the environment? If not, why is there no concern over what will become of these giants farms after 20-30 years - when they will need some expensive overhauls and these subsidies are scaled back?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:13 pm to ragincajun03
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Thibaut thinks the pushback to solar is sending a "bad message" and could drive away big investments.
If his parish wanted to truly send the right message, why aren't they codifying schemes that will give companies like Wal Mart or JB Hunt property tax breaks for installing solar panels on the roof of their sprawling businesses? That's where these things make the most sense.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:20 pm to ragincajun03
worried about the mercury but not the emissions from the 100 plants from baton rouge to new orleans
You can make this shite up
You can make this shite up
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:30 pm to crazyLSUstudent
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worried about the mercury but not the emissions from the 100 plants from baton rouge to new orleans
Why not both?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:34 pm to crazyLSUstudent
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worried about the mercury but not the emissions from the 100 plants from baton rouge to new orleans
You can make this shite up
Holy straw man, Batman.
It’s concerning that the leaching of materials into the groundwater or the decommissioning process are never openly addressed by the ”solar” cheer squad.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:40 pm to tigerinthebueche
Why don’t they have giant vertical solar towers that rotate to follow the sun and take up less land space?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:42 pm to Tigeralum2008
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We have one of the highest rates of cancer in the country yet we are worried about solar power pollution? C'Mon man
People fear what they don't understand.
Louisiana is one of the lowest rated states in terms of education.
Louisiana fears secondary energy.
You do the math.
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those solar farms will just look terrible in those fields that you’d confuse for a landfill if you didn’t know better
Because endless rice patties parish after parish are beautiful sights to behold.
Please.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:48 pm to A Smoke Break
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Because endless rice patties parish after parish are beautiful sights to behold.
Yeah, who needs food?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 3:53 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Yeah, who needs food?
Ight
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Silicon-based PV cells are the most widespread solar photovoltaic technology used. Most solar panels have a glass front that protects the PV cell and an aluminum or steel frame. Research shows that “leaching of trace metals from modules is unlikely to present a significant risk due to the sealed nature of the installed cells.”
Some solar modules use cadmium telluride (CdTe). Cadmium compounds are toxic, but studies show that such compounds cannot be emitted from CdTe modules during normal operation or even during fires. Industrial incineration temperatures, which are much higher than grassfires, are required to release the compounds from the modules.
Your famers are going to be fine. Your crops are going to be fine. Using the excuse of "the beauty of nature" is ridiculous when sugar cane, rice fields, and soybean fields are about as beautiful as a morning in vietnam.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:03 pm to A Smoke Break
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Using the excuse of "the beauty of nature" is ridiculous when sugar cane, rice fields, and soybean fields are about as beautiful as a morning in vietnam
Not saying I support government telling a private landowner who he can and can't lease his/her acreage to; however, I absolutely enjoy the sites of the three things you just listed. And I enjoy seeing those rice fields flooded in anticipation for rice crawfish season.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:39 pm to tigerinthebueche
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The largest maintenance cost involved with a solar farm is grass cutting. Run me the numbers in the sales taxes generated after you purchase the 2 mowers you’re gonna need to mow the place. I’ll wait.
This is dumb and everything you say should be ignored.
What most people don’t realize is that solar farms don’t produce directly usable energy. It has to be converted, transformed, transported, and transformed again to be used at a home or business. This takes infrastructure and that infrastructure takes maintenance.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 4:47 pm to Chingon Ag
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This is a serious concern that will only get worse as time progresses. I manage farm and ranches across the country and have had solar developers offer upwards of $1000/acre/yr to lease land for their projects. Our tenant farmers can’t come anywhere close to competing with groups at those rates.
holy sh!t!! I inherited a small farm that is set up on cash rent at $50/acre. I'm not a fan of blanketing green space with panels, but it would be hard for a landowner to pass up that offer.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 5:05 pm to ragincajun03
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Thibaut thinks the pushback to solar is sending a "bad message" and could drive away big investments.
I'm just gonna eyeroll this shite. Every time with the investment. That solar farm is going to create ONE full time job instead of being farmed by a dozen people. The farm in WP is an actual farm. The land was used for decades as an experiment station for cattle. Not like getting south park butters probed experiments. Fencing cattle on certain grass and seeing how they milk.
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I would look at studies in Europe specifically Germany and Austria if that is true.
Think about the politicians you're talking about here man. These people are morons.
Just wait until timber companies can't buy more land because every company on the planet is leasing tree land for carbon credits.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 5:20 pm to ragincajun03
Are we running out of raw land in this state?
Are we trying to expand farms and farmers are running into competition for land?
Are we trying to expand farms and farmers are running into competition for land?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 5:22 pm to OysterPoBoy
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Where does the power go if we don’t capture it with solar panels?
The Chinese
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:41 am to kjp811
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Are you talking about what happens if the farm creates more power than it can send to the grid?
I mean if there were no solar panels what would happen to the power? I guess it just bounces off the earth and back to space? What if we are creating problems by removing that power from the universe?
Posted on 6/22/21 at 10:43 am to OysterPoBoy
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I mean if there were no solar panels what would happen to the power? I guess it just bounces off the earth and back to space? What if we are creating problems by removing that power from the universe?
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