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re: Would you support criminalizing homelessness?
Posted on 6/17/14 at 1:16 pm to Breesus
Posted on 6/17/14 at 1:16 pm to Breesus
First off many homeless are insane. But in the early 80's the state run mnetal health hospitals were shut down, so the ones who would be in there are on the street.
Secondly the VA sucks, many other homeless are PTSD vets who couldn't get a job and reintegrate. We really really dropped the ball on the Vietnam Vets.
Next, many others are drug addicts who can't get it together because they live to take drugs. They need to be put into a center or treated.
I would rather take all the money we put in Iraq and whatever else we do in the sandbox and try and fix the problem with homelessness.
I hate seeing a city with so many abandoned houses and so much land and still see tent cities under the overpass.
Secondly the VA sucks, many other homeless are PTSD vets who couldn't get a job and reintegrate. We really really dropped the ball on the Vietnam Vets.
Next, many others are drug addicts who can't get it together because they live to take drugs. They need to be put into a center or treated.
I would rather take all the money we put in Iraq and whatever else we do in the sandbox and try and fix the problem with homelessness.
I hate seeing a city with so many abandoned houses and so much land and still see tent cities under the overpass.
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Posted on 6/17/14 at 1:17 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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All you seem to be arguing for is that heroine (which will never go away) be supplied, completely unregulated, by black market dealers.
I'm arguing that it should remain illegal. Murder isn't going away either but that too should remain illegal.
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If your 14 year old daughter wants to try some heroine, getting it from a dealer is gonna be 10x easier than getting it from a licensed retailer.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 1:18 pm to Napoleon
Agreed, Napolean. Good post. The real scar on American homelessness is mental health, something we desire to ignore vehemently.
This post was edited on 6/17/14 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 6/17/14 at 1:21 pm to Napoleon
Some cities already offer help for the addicts. Many choose to remain addicts.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 1:30 pm to Topwater Trout
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Some cities already offer help for the addicts. Many choose to remain addicts.
There are better ways to help. The only proven methods are illegal here.
But you give administered doses of the drug the addict is addicted to, not a stronger replacement like Methadone or Suboxone.
But I do agree, I know people who beat addiction, and tell me "as soon as I get off papers (probation-drug court) I'm getting fricked up"
So it isn't like everyone wants to get sober, but making the drugs illegal and making users criminals does not at all help the problem.
Posted on 6/17/14 at 1:48 pm to Breesus
Pros - I can't think of any
Cons - We have to pay for their incarceration and the building of new jails through higher taxes.
Cons - We have to pay for their incarceration and the building of new jails through higher taxes.
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