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re: Would you be okay with your wife dancing with another guy?

Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:13 am to
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:13 am to
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Be around enough women and you will learn AWALT. Yeah there are exceptions to every rule but for the most part they all fall into the same predictable behaviors.


How many women turn you down before you find that diamond in the rough? You're dismissing your own failures.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:14 am to
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I had met this woman at the bar. We shot some darts, danced a lil bit. We ended up going back to her hotel room and hooked up. She was from Birmingham in town for some medical conference.

Well the next morning I'm trying to get her # so maybe we can meet again. She decides to tell me she has a bf back home that she loves very much.


So yeah, that's the type of shite that happens when you go dancing.


It's funny how rare people think this is. When in reality its common as hell. Not only from my personal experiences of being the guy who nails the chick with a boyfriend, but I bartended for a couple years, shite I saw this happen all the time. Girl who I serve drinks to talks to me about her boyfriend, and then leaves with a stranger an hour later.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:14 am to
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He sounds like one of those idiots that give the "How to get laid" and "How to be a man" talks to the local pussy beta community. Thinks he's the man, but doesn't realize how incredibly naive he is.



Rule #1 is to never talk about this shite in person. I've never talked about any of this shite to people in real life. Online only.

It's like fight club.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:17 am to
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Which is why I don't bother with married women. Most of them will shut you down


Which proves pretty much everyone's point that your arguing with in here. The topic is wife. Not girlfriend, frick friend, or any other label for a relationship. Wife=married.

The few women who chimed in this thread, who you argued with and eventually said they're just the exception, were speaking from a married perspective. Then you say "Most will shut you down." How does that not prove their point? Your theory may be true if your talking about 18-22 girls. I'd probably actually agree with you about the attention seeking part. Things change when they get older and start thinking about a family and marriage.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 9:24 am
Posted by Tad Pad
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:18 am to
I agree with you GN
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:18 am to
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How many women turn you down before you find that diamond in the rough? You're dismissing your own failures.



I get turned down all the fricking time and I have mentioned this many times here.

If you approach as many women as I do its bound to happen. Even when you do approach and do "everything right", you'll fail with 75% of women.

About 25% of women will blow you off immediately. Another 25% will barely look at you, answer everything with 1-2 words, and hope you take the hint and go away. A third 25% will try to milk you for drinks and feign interest, but flake on any attempt to isolate her.

Sometimes, it's not even your fault. A woman just isn't open to getting fricked tonight. Maybe she's on her period. Maybe she had a shite day at work. Maybe she has a raging STD and is waiting for the course of antibiotics to finish. Maybe her dog just died. Maybe she's gay. Maybe she has a boyfriend or husband she doesn't feel like cheating on tonight. Or maybe she only dates 6'4" guys with beards, and you're 6'2" and clean-shaven. Women can be picky like that because 20 guys are going to hit on each of them tonight.

Rejection is part of being a man. Simply approaching women puts you in a special class of men because most men are afraid to do it. The key to getting rejected is to give no fricks - its only awkward if you make it awkward.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:21 am to
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Rejection is part of being a man. Simply approaching women puts you in a special class of men because most men are afraid to do it. The key to getting rejected is to give no fricks - its only awkward if you make it awkward.


Spot on man. Honestly I had to get used to rejection again. I never had only a 1st date before. It always led to multiple. But now that I'm older and there are all these apps I've been on a couple first dates and never spoke to the woman ever again.

But you can't let that bother you. Plenty of others out there ready to jump.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 9:27 am
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:21 am to
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I get turned down all the fricking time and I have mentioned this many times here.


Right, and I understand that, it's part of the game.

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you'll fail with 75% of women.


Is it safe to say that 75% of women aren't like you describe, since you know, they don't fall for your schtick?

What you describe are mostly women with low self-esteem and most likely seek male attention due to daddy issues. Your crap doesn't work on women who are stable, at that point your only option for copulation is to outright lie and deceive.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:21 am to
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goldennugget


Posted by Abadeebadaba
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:21 am to
What is with the huge influx of cuck questions on the OT lately? Slippin.
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:23 am to
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Which proves pretty much everyone's point that your arguing with in here. The topic is wife. Not girlfriend, frick friend, or any other label for a relationship. Wife=married.



Married women change the dynamic but it doesn't make them immune from cheating. It just makes it harder to get them to cheat.

But honestly? If you are into dealing with married women(I'm not) the key is to simply be better than the man she is married to. You don't have to be ultra good looking or amazing, just better than her husband.

Most married couples wake up, get the kids ready, go to work, pick up the kids, feed the kids, keep the house, and repeat. Sex is infrequent and boring. Lots of fighting too. Young children can be a difficult time for marriage if the husband isn't owning his shite and leading the family. Most husbands don't do this - they become lazy skinny fats.

So with married women all you have to do is interest her and intrigue her. Be fun, social, spontaneous, smooth. Make her laugh. Be everything her husband hasn't been lately. Eventually she will be willing to explore the possibility of having some fun night time text exchanges. Then that will progress to more. Make it fun and easy for her. Be discreet. Her husband will never know.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:25 am to
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Married women change the dynamic but it doesn't make them immune from cheating. It just makes it harder to get them to cheat.

But honestly? If you are into dealing with married women(I'm not) the key is to simply be better than the man she is married to. You don't have to be ultra good looking or amazing, just better than her husband.

Most married couples wake up, get the kids ready, go to work, pick up the kids, feed the kids, keep the house, and repeat. Sex is infrequent and boring. Lots of fighting too. Young children can be a difficult time for marriage if the husband isn't owning his shite and leading the family. Most husbands don't do this - they become lazy skinny fats.

So with married women all you have to do is interest her and intrigue her. Be fun, social, spontaneous, smooth. Make her laugh. Be everything her husband hasn't been lately. Eventually she will be willing to explore the possibility of having some fun night time text exchanges. Then that will progress to more. Make it fun and easy for her. Be discreet. Her husband will never know.


Since it's that easy, then why do most shut you down? Why is so hard for you to admit that many married women simply won't cheat on their husband?

I'm not saying married women don't cheat solely because they love their husband so much. They're are multiple factors such as kids, the life style, reputation as well as others that I'm sure all play a factor. Love of their husband is certainty one though, as it should be.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 9:32 am
Posted by goldennugget
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Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:27 am to
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Is it safe to say that 75% of women aren't like you describe, since you know, they don't fall for your schtick?



It doesn't matter WHAT schtick you use - you are going to fail with women.

Take whatever schtick you think would work best and substitute it with what I do - you will still fail.

It doesn't matter if you do what I do, or if you think the best way to get women is to invest heavily in them, be there for them, be emotional with them, do everything for her, validate them all the time, buy them shite all the time, worship the ground they walk on and tightly orbit them, it doesn't matter. You are going to fail. There is a ceiling.

You might think that it's because 75% don't buy what I am selling, which is fine. I go with what I think works best for me. I tried the beta goo goo emotional shite take her out to dinner and tell her how awesome she is in the past and it didn't work. Going that route was 100% rejection rate.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:28 am to
I feel like I need to take a shower after reading that giant wall of sleaze.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:31 am to
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Would you be okay with your wife dancing with another guy?


No

quote:

she danced with a bunch of guys would that upset you?


Yes






Your OP is poorly set up. You are asking for two different answers to the same question.
Posted by goldennugget
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Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:32 am to
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Since it's that easy, then why do most shut you down? Why is so hard for you to admit that many married women simply won't cheat on their husband?



I never go after married women, so I have never been shot down by a married women. If I were to try, that is how I would do it and the psychology behind it.

Just like I told sidewalk - apply the strategy that YOU think would work best with women - you will still have a high rejection rate. That's life.

That's why I say the key is to approach many women. Cast a wide net. 75% might fall through the cracks easily but its up to converting those 25% into something.

Most men are brainwashed to believe the way to do it is to pick ONE girl to "like", then become "frineds" with her and get to know her really well, don't move to quickly, and then after a month or two when enough time has passed invite her out on a lunch or dinner date, and do that a few times before trying to escalate to sex.

So what happens if you can't advance with that ONE girl? Congrats you just wasted a month or two on ONE girl and are back to square one. Meanwhile if I talk to a dozen women a week, thats 50 women a month, if 25% are receptive I have 12 women to try and convert into something, lets say I can close on 25% of them, so I have 3 girls in my rotation. Yeah my "batting average" may be .060 but I'd rather approach 50 girls and be successful with only 3 than approach 1 girl and be successful with 0.
Posted by dgnx6
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:34 am to
If you are in a committed relationship with someone, you shouldn't cheat. Married or not.

That ring and piece of paper shouldn't be the deciding factor. Yet married people cheat all the time.
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:35 am to
I'm so happy that I don't live your misrible life.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:38 am to
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nails the chick with a boyfriend, bu


rad man!
Posted by TigernMS12
Member since Jan 2013
5536 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 9:38 am to
I'm not saying it should. It's not the ring or paper that stops it with marriage. It's the kids, the life you've built together (all your assets which are split on divorce), your reputation and on and on. It is a dramatically easier decision to cheat when the only thing that results if you get caught is you break up and move on rather than all that can be impacted being married. Not to mention, believe it or not, some married people actually just love each other that much.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 9:39 am
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