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Would Louisiana and New Orleans both be better off if New Orleans was its own state?

Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:25 pm
Posted by frequent flyer
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:25 pm
New Orleans might be breaking their own violent crime record this year. And there is just not anywhere near enough focus on public safety to keep the city viable. But that’s what New Orleans wants. They have zero in common with north Louisiana and resent that Lafayette and Baton Rouge even exist.

Would Louisiana and New Orleans both be better off if New Orleans was its own state?
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:27 pm to
Louisiana would be better off if New Orleans was an island farther out in the Gulf and we just sent all of our prisoners there like the Brits did with sending theirs to Australia.
Posted by Langland
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:27 pm to
Louisiana would be better off if New Orleans fell into the Gulf.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:29 pm to
Louisiana would be better off.

But the decline of New Orleans would just accelerate if they lost access to state tax dollars to subsidize almost everything they have.
Posted by BROpaneTANK
Mandeville
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:31 pm to
I found a 2019 tax revenue document and after looking at how much money BR, Jefferson, St. Tammany, and Lafayette bring in I came to the quick realization that Louisiana would probably be much better off without New Orleans and they would probably be much worse off then they are now. The only category they especially excelled in was property taxes but those stay pretty much within the parish so I can’t help but imagine they probably draw in as much in disaster relief and welfare as they generate in Sales/Income tax. I’d love to see them as their own state or even better country, I would pay to watch Latoya without any safety nets.

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Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:31 pm to
Louisiana would be better off if I don't want to get banned
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:33 pm to
Louisiana would be better if New Orleans was salt water, but then, those that found something to float on would probably just move a little north and start the whole process over again.
Posted by Cajun367
S. Louisiana
Member since Oct 2017
1927 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:37 pm to
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Louisiana would be better if New Orleans was salt water, but then, those that found something to float on would probably just move a little north and start the whole process over


Katrina happened. The empirical evidence supports the this.
Posted by Tantal
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13859 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:39 pm to
The levees should be blown up and let hydrodynamics do their thing.
Posted by WhiteMandingo
Member since Jan 2016
5573 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:41 pm to
No to yea or nea 40% of st.tammany and jp residents work in Nola if not more. And a higher % is dependent on the cesspool now. Developers may reside in a fellow parish but the work is in the city the materials needed for said project a effected by work done in nola. You wouldn't be getting rid of nola you'd be putting a large portion of people who's job is dependent on the city.
I live in St tammany but a huge chunk of what I do is in the city. No job equals no tax revenue for my parish.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:43 pm to
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The levees should be blown up
George Bush already did that

Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:57 pm to
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I live in St tammany but a huge chunk of what I do is in the city


You can commute to another state though. At least until it completely imploded.
Posted by tigahbruh
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2014
2857 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:04 pm to
quote:

I live in St tammany but a huge chunk of what I do is in the city.


Same, BUT this is changing for a lot of people. More and more people in St Tammany live and work there.
more businesses are moving to St Tammany and Jefferson.
Orleans is a vestigial organ which retains the architecture but the culture and everything relevant has largely moved to surrounding areas.

Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:07 pm to
You'd have to give them the land all the way to the coastline because moving sand around the coastline is incredibly lucrative.
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
16949 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:54 pm to
Louisiana would be bankrupt if it wasnt for New Orleans

Also, Louisiana without New Orleans would be the least-attractive state for tourism in the nation. Itd be Mississippi without Biloxi.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:36 am to
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Also, Louisiana without New Orleans would be the least-attractive state for tourism in the nation. Itd be Mississippi without Biloxi.




false... there's a lot going on elsewhere in LA compared to some places

but if Orleans goes, they'll take Arabi, Chalmette, Belle Chasse, the lower half of St. Tammany, St. Charles, St. John until Laplace, Hammond, and Ponchatoula, and all of Jefferson minus Lafitte and Grand Isle with them. they'll get the loop that 10, 12, and 55 make
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 12:46 am
Posted by CovingtonTigre
In your head Werder
Member since Mar 2021
1292 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:45 am to
Louisiana would be Oklahoma without New Orleans. You decide if that’s better or not
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/1/22 at 12:49 am to
quote:

Louisiana would be better off if New Orleans fell into the Gulf.


It already has, but they built levees around it.
Posted by Eightballjacket
Member since Jan 2016
7310 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 1:01 am to
quote:

I found a 2019 tax revenue document and after looking at how much money BR, Jefferson, St. Tammany, and Lafayette bring in I

The Department of Revenue reports are eye opening especially the ones showing the income tax liability maps.
Posted by NOLAVOL16
Member since Jan 2022
873 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 1:22 am to
I’m happy to be gone from New Orleans but the fact of the matter is that the NO area is the economic engine that drives the rest of the state. New Orleans also has very little influence over the rest of the state so it’s not like the idiots there impact policy in Shreveport all that much.

Without New Orleans bringing in tourists, the port money, and whatever little industry is left, the state would look like Mississippi.
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