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re: Would It Really Be In The Best Interest Of Law Enforcement If There Were No Illegal Drugs?

Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:09 pm to
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 I feel psychedelics and certain other drugs like MDMA do have legitimate medicinal use.



I do too, but dont sell MDMA and LSD to just anyone who walks in.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:09 pm to
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That's cool as long as you cut all the safety nets as well.

No reason to spend tax money on the consequences for a someones choice to use drugs.

You want to use drugs...then take the responsibility and consequences for your choices


Absolutely 100%!

This is the stance of all libertarians and liberty minded people.


quote:

I disagree with the idea that you have the right to screw up your life


This 100%, is not.

It's your life, frick it up if you want but yes, you and only you have to live with the consequences.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21424 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:10 pm to
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Legal pot is still cheaper than illegal pot. Unless you get the friend hook up.

Lol, not even close to correct.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:12 pm to
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Fatty foods? Sugary treats? Water? The principle of freedom isn't just allowing things you agree with.


Yeah, eliminate 65% of all fast food resturant in america.

Bring back sugar, get rid of high fructose corn syrup.

Cleaner water.

You cant immediately overdose and die, or become impaired with anything you listed.

Posted by Bawcephus
Member since Jul 2018
2747 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:13 pm to
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Meth heads smoking meth in no way bothers me.

Meth heads doing meth head shite like robbing houses or killing to get their high does bother me.


Mother fricking bingo.

So you theoretically make drugs legal.
Do you think these drug addicts are gonna magically get jobs, help their kids with homework, buy houses or do anything that could be considered a productive member of society?

No. Because even if legal it'll cost money and they'll do what they've always done to get it. Rob, steal, kill, commit fraud, etc.

Then on top of that, you created the beast and now have every obligation to treat them when they inevitably fall apart.

There's no easy solution and what is happening now isn't ideal. But a wholesale free for all isn't the answer.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21424 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:14 pm to
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You cant immediately overdose and die, or become impaired with anything you listed.

You absolutely can die from drinking too much water. It requires some effort, but entirely achievable.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:15 pm to
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It would be in the best interest of society if all drugs were legalized.



Plus, the the Mexican cartels would lose $20b annually in drug sales to the US alone. Maybe it would help Mexico get its act together.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:16 pm to
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Do you think these drug addicts are gonna magically get jobs, help their kids with homework, buy houses or do anything that could be considered a productive member of society?


Not a big fan of freedom, eh? Why not just make stealing and murder illegal and let people do what they want to themselves?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:17 pm to
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You absolutely can die from drinking too much water. It requires some effort, but entirely achievable.



Anyone who drinks themself to death with water had bigger problems
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:20 pm to
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Mother fricking bingo.

So you theoretically make drugs legal.
Do you think these drug addicts are gonna magically get jobs, help their kids with homework, buy houses or do anything that could be considered a productive member of society?



What are they doing now? That's what they'll be doing then.

The average American is terrified of liberty.
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:24 pm to
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The average American is terrified of liberty.


No they are terrified of the consequences of liberty.

Heaven forbid people take responsibility for their decisions.

With individual liberties...come individual consequences.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21424 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:26 pm to
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Anyone who drinks themself to death with water had bigger problems

Things like an impending urinalysis for illegal drugs? Now I've gone full circle here
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9735 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:27 pm to
What does your friend/coworker/ex college roommate / neighbor have to say about it?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 1:30 pm to
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No they are terrified of the consequences of liberty


Absolutely the same thing.

People prefer a controlled society, even if the alternative would probably be more safe to the public. Propaganda works.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20745 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 2:05 pm to
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All the war on drugs has done is make criminals out of addicts and create these massive black markets that fund criminal organizations like the cartels.



You realize there’s still a black market for MJ I’m states where it’s legal, right?

There’s a whole shitload of different types of marijuana and it’s byproducts coming out now trying to skirt around the regulations.

There’s effing upper and downer MJ and even crystallized MJ and people thought they were just legalizing a plant but there’s a whole basket of worms that comes with it.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6354 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 2:23 pm to
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OweO
It sounds like you are making an argument that meth creates law enforcement jobs, thus meth is good for the economy. You should also note that meth has caused wage increases due to the shortage of sober workers. But the most important message here is that you horrible poster.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 2:25 pm to
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You realize there’s still a black market for MJ I’m states where it’s legal, right?


Because it's still over regulated and highly taxed. A less restricted mainstream economy would kill off the underground.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141233 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 2:27 pm to
No, they would lose ticket revenue
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79876 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 2:31 pm to
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Blue laws. There's no crime until there's an actual victim.


In a utopia that would be great.

Such as no restrictions on storing highly reactive hazadous chemicals next to your childrens daycare. Not causing anyone harm.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20745 posts
Posted on 2/8/20 at 2:38 pm to
Comparative to alcohol it’s not overly regulated. There’s essentially no limit as far as THC concentration goes in the US whereas there are limits on alcohol content. You could even say it’s less regulated than cigarettes as well due to limitations on nicotine.

Yeah it’s taxed but so is everything else.
This post was edited on 2/8/20 at 2:38 pm
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