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re: Would/Could EBRPSS accommodate an influx of private schoolers?
Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:45 pm to TigerRob20
Posted on 3/1/19 at 11:45 pm to TigerRob20
I see a mass of current private school parent population sending their kids to public schools.
Look what happened to Redemptorist when Central and Zachary broke off. It took less than 1 generation for the numbers to fall. And the socioeconomic status of the population was mass majority middle class.
And then of course you’ll have the families that will keep kids in private schools just for the status.
Let’s say “if” EBR schools would become good again. Parkview and Runnels would close down fast.
Catholic school wise, CHS/SJA would be fine. St Michaels would have a big drop in enrollment, about to 2A size, but still stay open due to it being the only co-Ed catholic school in the area.
Episcopal and Dunham would be fine because not all of those who want “private school status” is catholic.
My sister and I, mother, uncles, and grandparents all attended catholic schools. My son got his admission letter about 3 weeks ago and is starting school this fall. So that makes 4 generations.
But let my neighborhood school become decent again......I’d be glad NOT to cut that tution check for my kid. I’d love to get what my tax money is paying for. And we live walking distance from our neighborhood public elementary school.
Look what happened to Redemptorist when Central and Zachary broke off. It took less than 1 generation for the numbers to fall. And the socioeconomic status of the population was mass majority middle class.
And then of course you’ll have the families that will keep kids in private schools just for the status.
Let’s say “if” EBR schools would become good again. Parkview and Runnels would close down fast.
Catholic school wise, CHS/SJA would be fine. St Michaels would have a big drop in enrollment, about to 2A size, but still stay open due to it being the only co-Ed catholic school in the area.
Episcopal and Dunham would be fine because not all of those who want “private school status” is catholic.
My sister and I, mother, uncles, and grandparents all attended catholic schools. My son got his admission letter about 3 weeks ago and is starting school this fall. So that makes 4 generations.
But let my neighborhood school become decent again......I’d be glad NOT to cut that tution check for my kid. I’d love to get what my tax money is paying for. And we live walking distance from our neighborhood public elementary school.
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Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:34 am to Modern
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Look what happened to Redemptorist when Central and Zachary broke off.
That didn’t help, but RHS was in trouble long before that. They had options to move the school years before and chose not to. Not to mention they weren’t the diocese “favorite child” and the diocese held the purse strings. Bad decisions were made across the board.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:49 am to white beans
Ole Linda would be asking to "speak with the manager" pretty much every day.
Also, can we set aside this canard that all catholic school students are smarter than all public school students? 75% of Catholic school students are very average academically, especially since most Catholic school teachers are ones that couldn't pass the damn Praxis.
The honors classes and teachers in the catholic schools are top notch, no doubt.
The real difference is behavior. In the average Catholic school, they crack skulls on any troublemakers, so it doesn't affect the classroom learning experience. In the average public school, they are much more limited in what they can do to punish classroom misbehaving, and that certainly can affect the learning experience.
Also, can we set aside this canard that all catholic school students are smarter than all public school students? 75% of Catholic school students are very average academically, especially since most Catholic school teachers are ones that couldn't pass the damn Praxis.
The honors classes and teachers in the catholic schools are top notch, no doubt.
The real difference is behavior. In the average Catholic school, they crack skulls on any troublemakers, so it doesn't affect the classroom learning experience. In the average public school, they are much more limited in what they can do to punish classroom misbehaving, and that certainly can affect the learning experience.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:51 am to ItSawGood
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The school board would receive more funding, school board receives funding from state called MFP
Yes. But, part of their funding is local tax dollars, which would not necessairly increase. Part of that would be offset by filling existing schools to capacity and economics of scale.
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one of the issues ppl have with junk charter schools- they take away public dollars from public schools
Again, this is only part of the issue. Yes, they take away public dollars, but they also take away expenses as well.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 9:54 am to Modern
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The only 2 charter schools that are doing well (that I know of) is Lusher in NOLA and Madison Prep in BR.
You need to increase your research. NOLA is now pretty much 100 percent charter. And while no one will ever confuse that system with world class, pretty much every child is getting a better education now than compared to 15 years ago.
New Orleans may have unique problems. But the vast, vast majority of people in NOLA have admitted that charters are indeed working. By no means are they perfect, but they are a hell of a lot better than what we had before.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:03 am to Modern
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But let my neighborhood school become decent again......I’d be glad NOT to cut that tution check for my kid. I’d love to get what my tax money is paying for. And we live walking distance from our neighborhood public elementary school
There's an entire middle level between the Episcopals of the area and public schools, and it's that middle level that would be threatened if the public schools got better.
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But let my neighborhood school become decent again......I’d be glad NOT to cut that tution check for my kid. I’d love to get what my tax money is paying for. And we live walking distance from our neighborhood public elementary school.
In Jefferson Parish, it's the expansion of the magnet schools that are picking off the families that used to send their kids to Catholic schools. The catholic High Schools in Jefferson, none of them are in danger of immediate closure, but all of them are probably at record lows for enrollment - as much as 50% less than their highs.
At the elementary level, you have some catholic schools that are doing fine. You also have a number of catholic schools that are only still alive because of vouchers. There are still a number of C, D, and F neighborhood public schools, and a number of people that qualify for vouchers, yet can't get into the magnets. These families are taking the vouchers to the elementary Catholic schools.
If the voucher program ever shut down, and these kids had to go back to their neighborhood public schools, you would see 1/3 of Arch of New Orleans catholic elementary schools shut down.
You are always going to have Catholic schools here because of tradition and a desire for a religious education. But there are plenty of parents out there, who aren't catholic, who only send their kids there because the neighborhood school isn't very good, and who can't get into a magnet. those are the people that are going to leave en masse if the neighborhood schools get their act together.
Posted on 3/2/19 at 10:27 am to LSUFanHouston
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Yes. But, part of their funding is local tax dollars, which would not necessairly increase. Part of that would be offset by filling existing schools to capacity and economics of scale.
The bulk of the money comes from the state. So, while local tax revenue remains the same, so does many of the expenses. For example, if you have 90 schools today and 90 schools tomorrow your principal count is identical. You administration expenses really don’t change.
EBR used to have over 70,000 students, today they have around 40,000 students. The capacity is most likely there.
The complaint about charter schools is they take the MFP dollars and the local taxes. They lose a lot more money when kids go to charter schools than they do when they go private.
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