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re: With technology out there today, why are estranged husbands still able to kill?

Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:33 am to
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49101 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 8:33 am to
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Many women abuse the system put in place to protect them. There has to be some kind of common sense solution. I would say the first time someone violates the protective order they have to submit to monitoring.


That's what I'm getting at. There's already a gun-ban in place for when a person does something on top of just having an order against them. Why aren't more jurisdictions looking at these cases and telling the offender,

"You have an order against you. You've been arrested for domestic violence already. You can wear this GPS device while the victim has a smartphone app/physical device at home. And you're paying for it. Or .... you can sit in jail for 90 days."


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The laws in place currently do not protect you.

Madam that's exactly what I was starting the thread for. If Third Leg don't like GPS, then suggest SOMETHING. ANYTHING. But he won't. He's just a dick anyhow and wanted to argue with us. But right now on any day in any city, there's a man or woman who has every intention of killing their significant other if given the opportunity, regardless of consequence. Something needs to change.

at Third Leg b/c he's a cockhead.
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 8:37 am
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
3165 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:00 am to
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How SHOULD someone be able to correctly identify the person who will murder them, sometimes years in advance?


They can't. But anger management problems are identifiable and I think that this is a less specific problem than simply trying to figure out who will turn into a murder. I think that women who put up with any abuse are potential victims of much greater abuse. Men who commit any amount of physical abuse have the potential to commit much greater abuse. Any man who has ever hit or otherwise physically attacked his wife (choked, pushed, tackled, held down, etc) and is whining about how his divorce turned out, not only caused it to happen, but also deserved exactly what he got.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
24397 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:24 am to
The company I work for had a proposal for a court district in LA to monitor persons on court ordered RO. It's not just a matter of monitoring where the offender is located. We have the technology to geo fence the victims home, work and kids school. If the offender broke the geo fence we would alert the victim and LEO. The intent is to alert the victim and give LEO a quicker response time before an incident occurs. The court didn't want to pay for the service.
Posted by bobaftt1212
Hills of TN
Member since Mar 2013
1419 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:34 am to
A woman's first stop on her way to get a restraining order should be the gun store. Would have ended differently if he had taken a bat to a gun fight.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:36 am to
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The company I work for had a proposal for a court district in LA to monitor persons on court ordered RO. It's not just a matter of monitoring where the offender is located. We have the technology to geo fence the victims home, work and kids school.
that's easy to do as well. shite, most software for gps trackers have the geofencing options.
Posted by Geaux8686
Location Location
Member since Oct 2014
2617 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:39 am to
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Maybe we could have one of those deals like in the movie Fortress. Where if you get too near a certain zone an implant blows up.



LOL

But, a cell phone pings. If you turn it off, that is still suspect.

Anyone who thinks they can get away with a homicide is a fool.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:40 am to
Precision offers free CC classes to women with restraining orders
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BATON ROUGE - One gun store is offering free training to women who have restraining orders against abusive men. The owners of Precision Firearms and Indoor Range said they reached the decision because they're upset with the recent killing of Geismar resident Monica Johnson.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49101 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:42 am to
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meauxjeaux2


I linked that in the bump this morning, tard.

Hey did I possibly see your brother in Pville yesterday? Speaking of him the other day.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49101 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:45 am to
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The company I work for had a proposal for a court district in LA to monitor persons on court ordered RO. It's not just a matter of monitoring where the offender is located. We have the technology to geo fence the victims home, work and kids school. If the offender broke the geo fence we would alert the victim and LEO. The intent is to alert the victim and give LEO a quicker response time before an incident occurs. The court didn't want to pay for the service.


Can this be pushed for again? Maybe use the most recent tragedies in Ascension Parish to make changes and get this shite pushed through.
It pisses me off to see all the acquiescence to pressure for body cameras(Walker most recently) b/c of bad cops but nothing but restraining orders for women(most times).
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 9:46 am
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 9:57 am to
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I linked that in the bump this morning, tard.

my bad frickboi

quote:

Hey did I possibly see your brother in Pville yesterday? Speaking of him the other day.


black and tan F150?
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 10:00 am to


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Another feature of the Spy Tec GPS platform allows you to fence off certain areas of the map and be alerted when the tracker enters or leaves the restricted area.


LINK
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
49101 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 11:08 am to
I googled this stuff last year when Ronald Green killed his wife and son(Ronald Green Jr. I can't even fathom this).

The technology is there. Fencing, improved alert and response times, etc.

I just firmly believe that this would happen far less if gps systems are put in place WHEN WARRANTED*, combined with the victim owning a gun and knowing how to use it properly.

End of motherfrickin story unless it's proven to not work.

Work out the privacy and fairness of it later. Stop letting these women be sitting ducks.

*proven offender with restraining order against him/her.
This post was edited on 8/12/15 at 11:10 am
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
24397 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 12:23 pm to
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Can this be pushed for again? Maybe use the most recent tragedies in Ascension Parish to make changes and get this shite pushed through.
It pisses me off to see all the acquiescence to pressure for body cameras(Walker most recently) b/c of bad cops but nothing but restraining orders for women(most times).


It's not Rocket Science and it's not that expensive in the grand scheme of things. We shut down our project for lack of interest.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
24397 posts
Posted on 8/12/15 at 12:27 pm to
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that's easy to do as well. shite, most software for gps trackers have the geofencing options


True but most don't integrate back into LEO dispatching and communication systems which ours would. We could alert LEO within seconds of the offender violating the fence and send the closest officer to the position of the offender.
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