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re: With more solar farms in the works, West Baton Rouge leaders move to require permits
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:28 am to goofball
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:28 am to goofball
quote:Many point this out as if it's a bad thing, but requiring so few ongoing costs is a key reason that solar has so much potential. Diverse & cheap energy sources spurs development and jobs in other industries.
This giant facility near Rosedale, LA (west of Port Allen) has a ONE employee.
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Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:29 am to Korkstand
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Which crops are carbon negative?
For production? Cane.
For processing..... None
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:30 am to billjamin
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Its especially popular in areas with unreliable grids, i.e. Puerto Rico, CA, etc.
The reason why the PR grid is unreliable is completely different than why the CA grid is unreliable.
Not a knock on what you posted, just find that fact rather funny. Of course if I lived in California I'd find it rather angering.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:31 am to goofball
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West Baton Rouge
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impact the parish's aesthetics.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:32 am to monsterballads
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monsterballads
Laugh it up. But that whole area was just sugar cane blowing in the breeze.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:33 am to Centinel
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The reason why the PR grid is unreliable is completely different than why the CA grid is unreliable.
Not a knock on what you posted, just find that fact rather funny. Of course if I lived in California I'd find it rather angering.
LOL very true, I was in PR for several island wide power outages. Nothing like being on a call and the entire fricking island loses power because some dude in an excavator got too close to a line.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:34 am to billjamin
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LOL very true, I was in PR for several island wide power outages. Nothing like being on a call and the entire fricking island loses power because some dude in an excavator got too close to a line.
Ya, but living in places like that you get used to it. I spent a good four months having no hot water when I was in Jordan.
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 9:35 am
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:36 am to goofball
TRANSLATION : The board wants to be bribed before they'll let you do something good for their constituants.
The anesthetics of West Baton Rouge?
You literally cannot make this sh!t up.
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Parish leaders last month halted solar plant construction because of concerns touching mainly on how the project would impact the parish's aesthetics.
The anesthetics of West Baton Rouge?
You literally cannot make this sh!t up.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:39 am to Centinel
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Ya, but living in places like that you get used to it. I spent a good four months having no hot water when I was in Jordan.
Funny story about the CA side. I was closing a deal with a big US based bank. We had the IE reports finalized and one of the big contentious points was inclusion of Tesla storage. The tech is just too new for institutional lenders to be comfortable with, but we were pushing hard. Well the bank engineer lives in the bay area and this was over last summer. We were literally trying to get the deal signed off on before they cut his power. One of the guys from Tesla offered to install a PW2 that afternoon so we could keep going working and so he could experience the tech. We closed the next day after he saw how awesome it was.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:43 am to billjamin
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I've deployed millions of GWh of solar and never experienced this. That's insane, but there would at least be some interconnection processes.
Interesting. Louisiana? Under the old tax incentives or current? How are combatting the net metering issues? Residential or commercial? Millions of G-dubs is undoubtedly commercial but you’d have to be in California to be claiming those numbers. What state? How are you competing with the 8-10 cents per KW that most Louisiana charge and still incentivize? Have you secured financing that allows you to remain operational once ITCs lapse? Chinese Hyund or Viking manufacturers? Enphase or SE?
This post was edited on 1/15/21 at 9:46 am
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:45 am to X123F45
I would rather it be cane just blowing in the wind than a solar farm. You can still do things with land that is an AG production down the road. Put it in conservation programs or something else that is environmentally friendly. Turning it into a solar farm is about like turning it into a neighborhood or parking lot, chances of it going back into anything nature related is slim to none.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:45 am to MMauler
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The anesthetics of West Baton Rouge?
You literally cannot make this sh!t up.
They installed a glaring mess next to a subdivision where the median home price is 300+
Think about what 300k would buy in wbr.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:47 am to GREENHEAD22
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I would rather it be cane just blowing in the wind than a solar farm.
I'd rather see cane blowing in the wind than just about anything in nature.
It's a beautiful thing that shouldn't exist.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:52 am to goofball
Local gov can't let the state progress
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:56 am to goofball
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Solar is clean energy, but it's output/footprint ratio is way too low to be an ideal source of base load generation (not to mention that it doesn't generate anything at night). It takes up way too much space for what it produces.
Louisiana's climate doesn't seem like a good choice for a solar farm, per the NOAA we average 99 clear days, 119 partly cloudy days, and 147 Cloudy days. So 40% of the year we aren't productive at all with solar power. Cloudiness - Mean Number of Days (Clear, Partly Cloudy, Cloudy) Just doesn't seem like a good use of the land, that could be used for something else. Arizona, west texas, etc are great spots, lots of wide open land that gets a lot of sunshine, and the land isn't suitable for growing anything.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 9:57 am to X123F45
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They installed a glaring mess next to a subdivision where the median home price is 300+
They also want to build it around a brand new school - surrounding it on 3 sides.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 10:02 am to TDcline
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Interesting. Louisiana? Under the old tax incentives or current? How are combatting the net metering issues? Residential or commercial? Millions of G-dubs is undoubtedly commercial but you’d have to be in California to be claiming those numbers. What state? How are you competing with the 8-10 cents per KW that most Louisiana charge and still incentivize? Have you secured financing that allows you to remain operational once ITCs lapse? Chinese Hyund or Viking manufacturers? Enphase or SE?
Only one portfolio I worked on had any LA assets.
Mostly the 30% ITC but some new ones and plenty of safe harbor.
I haven't had to fight it much, we just work it into the economics. But storage defeats all.
Resi, C&I and Utility.
Most states along with almost every US territory.
Like I said I don't do much in LA. It is a tougher market. PR is way easier at 24 cents lol.
Yes, i've secured full term 25 year deals, tax equity with a flip back to securitize, etc.
I've used pretty much every tier 1 module manufacturer at some point.
Both, i personally prefer Enphase, but SE is solid as long as you don't have a gen 1 screenless unit.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 10:04 am to Emteein
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Louisiana's climate doesn't seem like a good choice for a solar farm, per the NOAA we average 99 clear days, 119 partly cloudy days, and 147 Cloudy days. So 40% of the year we aren't productive at all with solar power. Cloudiness - Mean Number of Days (Clear, Partly Cloudy, Cloudy) Just doesn't seem like a good use of the land, that could be used for something else. Arizona, west texas, etc are great spots, lots of wide open land that gets a lot of sunshine, and the land isn't suitable for growing anything.
Look up the NREL TMY data for it. I'm honestly not sure what it says, but that's kind of the gospel unless you can find a CPR log in.
Posted on 1/15/21 at 10:06 am to goofball
might be a dumb question but is solar cheaper than NG power? Or does the solar farm charge the same to Entergy and we see no difference?
Shouldnt the cost of solar only be initial capital investment, maintenance, and operations expenses (minimal)? There are no raw feeds such as natural gas
Shouldnt the cost of solar only be initial capital investment, maintenance, and operations expenses (minimal)? There are no raw feeds such as natural gas
Posted on 1/15/21 at 10:07 am to billjamin
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I'm never cool with the government dictating what people do on their land regardless of the owner.
And most of these are leased not owned in my experience.
Would you be cool with someone building one on the 1000 acres that surround your home? Would you like to roll the dice on how it’s
Gonna affect your homes value or your quality of life? If so, ask them to put this one in your hood.
I agree The landowner has a right to do what he wants with his property. But this is a bad deal for WBR. It provides ONE permanent job and ties up the land for 20 years. It’s a shitty deal for WBR and those who live around it.
Also, when the owner of the power gen company goes tits up ala Solyndra, who’s going to clean up the massive solar farm?
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