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re: Will Smith's BAC 3x the legal limit when he was shot
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:31 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:31 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Don't think that makes it illegal.
The permit to carry a concealed weapon shall be revoked by the deputy secretary when the permittee is carrying and concealing a handgun:
The blood alcohol reading of a permittee is .05 percent or greater by weight of alcohol in the blood.
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Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:32 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
So the gun was found on Smith and not in his vehicle now? Been a while since we've done one of these threads.
no... the gun was in the vehicle
people just pulling out the CCL statute now that it's come out that WS was apparently a little more than tipsy
still doesn't change all that much though really
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:32 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
I read that as being literally on my person, not just in the car.
I'm only an Internet lawyer though.
I'm only an Internet lawyer though.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:32 pm to N2cars
quote:
That is obviously the mature, correct choice, especially if you are carrying.
Not to mention if you value your life. Problem is, Hayes appears to be the type of person that was more concerned about showing someone not to disrespek him and was going to prove it.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:33 pm to baldona
quote:
Hayes got out of his vehicle to confront Smith
witnesses said smith confronted hayes.
fact is people are defending smith's actions because he was a saints player. I would have shot smith in the back if
quote:and he went in to reach for it.
Smith threatened to grab his gun out of his car
I guess I would rot in prison but its better than dying
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:34 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:
fact is people are defending smith's actions because he was a saints player.
I'm not sure you know what facts are if this is what you call a fact.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:34 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:
I would have shot smith in the back if
Smith threatened to grab his gun out of his car
and he went in to reach for it.
So you are saying you advocate shooting an unarmed person?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:35 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:
He killed Smith. The burden is on him to prove that his life was in imminent danger. Smith being drunk doesn't do that
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:35 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:
and he went in to reach for it.
A split-second decision.
A big, drunk guy telling me he's "gonna get my gun".
I'd probably believe him.
That said, I'm going to do my best to not get in that situation.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:35 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
I'm not sure you know what facts are if this is what you call a fact.
would we even be talking about this if he wasn't?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:36 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:
would we even be talking about this if he wasn't?
That has no relevance to to what I posted.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:36 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:
would we even be talking about this if he wasn't?
obviously it's a high profile case b/c it is a Saints player
but I believe most people here are trying to see this in a logical sense of the law
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:36 pm to Nado Jenkins83
quote:
witnesses said smith confronted hayes.
fact is people are defending smith's actions because he was a saints player. I would have shot smith in the back if
Yes but Hayes chased after Smith by vehicle. Maybe Smith then got out and confronted him, but Hayes was in his car in the beginning and would of had to get out on his own accord.
I'm not saying Hayes shooting smith in the back is justified by the law, but I'm saying its more justified to shoot him in the back after a threat to grab a gun than just to shoot him in the back without a reason.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:37 pm to N2cars
quote:
That said, I'm going to do my best to not get in that situation.
exactly
then again I'm not married to a crazy woman, drinking and driving all day and getting involved in hit and runs
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:37 pm to N2cars
quote:
A big, drunk guy telling me he's "gonna get my gun".
I'd probably believe him.
As would I, problem is i'm not shooting him in the back...im leaving the scene.
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:38 pm to baldona
quote:
I'm saying its more justified to shoot him in the back after a threat to grab a gun than just to shoot him in the back without a reason.
Kinda what I said earlier...
"At that moment" was Hayes in fear for his life?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:38 pm to lsuhunt555
quote:In some situations, absofrickinglutely.
So you are saying you advocate shooting an unarmed person?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:38 pm to lsuhunt555
quote:
.im leaving the scene.
We all agree there, but what if, for some reason, you can't?
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:38 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Start a thread saying "drunk black man is involved in hit and run and then is shot after confrontation with hit and run victim."
I'm not sure you know what facts are if this is what you call a fact.
See how many TPOS is now off the streets post you get in 20 seconds. If Smith wasnt a saints player, he would be a dindu TPOS "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes" contestant.
Now that changes nothing about the case, but it is a fact it has played a part in his defense by tigerdroppings posters
Posted on 5/31/16 at 2:40 pm to baldona
Was it ever proven who shot Smith's wife? I remember rumor that Smith may of shot his wife on accident first and that is why Hayes shot smith after hearing the gun shot? Something about Haye's gun only holding 7 shots possibly and him having 1 bullet left, 6 shots being in Smith, and so therefore the wife's GSW was in question?
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