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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter

Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:28 am to
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:28 am to
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you can't take out a gun in an argument and not expect others might then feel the need to protect themselves therefore only you have the legal right to shoot people dead because you showcased your gun first.


what if someone is punching you and then you pull it?

what about then?
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:40 am to
State called Kevin O'Neal on stand at the moment for all to know.
Posted by GRIZZ
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:41 am to
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Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 2m2 minutes ago ADA Laura Rodrigue establishes O'Neal described them as 'actual midgets' to the grand jury at one point.


Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:48 am to
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If he was struck while he was sitting in the driver's seat leaning over to the glove box, the bullet trajectory will be upwards towards the head from the entry point.

I understand the trajectory angle point you are trying to make but Will Smith never got back into his vehicle. His very dead feet were on the ground outside the vehicle pointed toward the front passenger door and his very dead left arm was seen over or between the steering wheel and the dashboard.
Where his body was found is not necessarily where he was when he was struck for the first time.

Let's wait for the ballistic report. The side wound trajectory may be nothing, but Fuller didn't ask Rachael Smith if her husband had fired that weapon at a firing range earlier that day for nothing.
Posted by GRIZZ
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:48 am to
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ADA Laura Rodrigue hammering home that the only thing that told O'Neal to get his gun from the Hummer were when shots were fired (1/2)


So far this isn't going well for Hayes and co.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:49 am to
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After Smith made physical contact with Hayes, the other 2 passengers got more aggressive, O'Neal claims.



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Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 53s53 seconds ago ADA Laura Rodrigue asks incredulously if 5 men of various ethnicities failed to restrain Will Smith.
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 9:50 am
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:50 am to
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All he had to do to reach his gun was lean in and open the center console.



Really????????? I was responding to the post that talked about him being shot while sitting in his vehicle.
Posted by GRIZZ
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:50 am to
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O'Neal now saying he got his gun because he felt his life was under duress. Rodrigue seizing on the fact that he said he went for it after Hayes pulled the trigger
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:51 am to
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 5s5 seconds ago
O'Neal's testimony that 5 men were failing to restrain Will Smith seems to contradict the video statement he made to David Dreiling ...
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:53 am to
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For frick's sake



FIFY. Learn English and grammar. Quit sounding like you're from Lower Alabama.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:54 am to
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Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 22s22 seconds ago ADA Rodrigue again asks, 'The 1st time you were afraid was when you heard shots?' O'Neal: Sounds like you're trying to twist my words.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:55 am to
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Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 22s22 seconds ago ADA Rodrigue again asks, 'The 1st time you were afraid was when you heard shots?' O'Neal: Sounds like you're trying to twist my words.
How is that not a leading question?
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:58 am to
You can lead an adverse party/witness
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 9:59 am
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 9:59 am to
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You can lead an adverse party
10-4
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:03 am to
Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 19s19 seconds ago
Rodrigue: That's the logical thing to do. That's what anyone would do when realizing someone was armed on the scene.
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Ramon Antonio Vargas ?@RVargasAdvocate 51s51 seconds ago
Rodrigue: You went back to your car when you were in reasonable fear for your life and that of everyone around you? O'Neal: Correct.
Posted by rt3
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:07 am to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet
After Listening to Kevin Hayes for over 1 1/2 hours it is obvious to me that Cardell Hayes will have to testify or he will be convicted.


ETA: obviously he means Kevin O'Neal
This post was edited on 12/8/16 at 10:10 am
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:08 am to
if that's coming from foret, yikes...
Posted by tgrbaitn08
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:09 am to
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FIFY. Learn English and grammar. Quit sounding like you're from Lower Alabama.

But I am from lower Alabama
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:10 am to
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After Listening to Kevin Hayes for over 1 1/2 hours it is obvious to me that Cardell Hayes will have to testify or he will be convicted.


If Hayes has to testify, Hayes is already convicted.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 10:12 am to
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Donald Chick Foret ?@chickforet
After Listening to Kevin Hayes for over 1 1/2 hours it is obvious to me that Cardell Hayes will have to testify or he will be convicted.
Foret is a biased hack, right Chad?


Lol

Has chad been right about anything?
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