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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter

Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:53 pm to
Posted by Winkface
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:53 pm to
Amazing what a difference of a few words means. "Whatever your name is." vs "I forget your name." are both condescending responses but one being a whole lot more so than the other.

There were also different transcriptions of the penthouse comment.
Posted by Winkface
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:56 pm to
Tweets from cj should be banned. Not only does he just seem like a giant douche but he is so pro defense it isn't funny. At least Chick is more impartial.
Posted by tiger91
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:57 pm to
This is so hard to follow ... almost wish it was somehow "live".

Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:57 pm to
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Tweets from cj should be banned. Not only does he just seem like a giant douche but he is so pro defense it isn't funny. At least Chick is more impartial.




why would you want to ban someone because you dont agree with their opinion?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:57 pm to
They shouldn't be allowed to tweet anything other than direct quotes
Posted by Winkface
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:57 pm to
8 women correct?
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:58 pm to
What is the Penthouse comment about?
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 5:59 pm to
He is presenting quotes but compared to all the other reporters, his are twisted.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:01 pm to
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It would take more than your normal impact to make that thing change speed or jolt forward.
it doesn't change speed or jolt forward. Smith braking suddenly makes it seem that way
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:02 pm to
Anyone that tags a saints players twitter handle or #team Gleason is just trying to sway opinions.
Posted by ForeverLSU02
Albany
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:02 pm to
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I've been on the pro-collision side of this discussion from the beginning. I thought it was obvious there was a tap and that Hayes' vehicle moved forward due to the impact. After looking at the video many times and ignoring Smith's vehicle and focusing on Hayes' vehicle it looks to me that momentum carries Hayes forward and that Smith's sudden stop makes it seems as though there is a collision. If there was a collision, which is very possible, it's not as obvious as many of you are making it out to be.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:03 pm to
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He is presenting quotes but compared to all the other reporters, his are twisted.


he is a legal analyst and a lawyer.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:03 pm to
I just read this entire thread and I didn't see where Mrs. Smith was asked if she saw a gun at all.

Was she asked by the defense if she saw a gun in Hayes' hands?
Posted by sealawyer
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:04 pm to
I've followed this trial all day, and there are a few lines of questioning that I am curious to see developed over the course of the trial.

However, the one I am really curious about is what Fuller knows about gunshot residue, asking Ms. Smith if her husband went to the gun range that day. He could be asking that to establish that Smith carried the gun for protection or confrontation purposes, and not for sport; but he could also know something we don't about whether Smith shot the gun. It's hard to really judge a line of questioning when all you get is tweets, but that issue really stuck out to me as a foundation for something to come later on.

This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 6:06 pm
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47806 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

I just read this entire thread and I didn't see where Mrs. Smith was asked if she saw a gun at all.

Was she asked by the defense if she saw a gun in Hayes' hands?


it was worded in a weird way but she said she did not see the gun or person that shot her, or something along those lines. I am assuming that if hayes had the weapon in his hand the whole time that she would have definitely brought this up.

Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:06 pm to
quote:

e is a legal analyst and a lawyer.


his tweets read like a child's

And you are correct, a reporter used to reporting exactly what is said would be better than a lawyer.
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:08 pm to
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it was worded in a weird way but she said she did not see the gun or person that shot her, or something along those lines. I am assuming that if hayes had the weapon in his hand the whole time that she would have definitely brought this up.



Ok. I remember the answer she gave but having not been in the courtroom I thought she was asked if she saw the person who shot her or if she saw Hayes firing his gun.

Twitter is a horrible way to get accurate trial testimony. Who knew ?
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
47806 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:10 pm to
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Twitter is a horrible way to get accurate trial testimony. Who knew ?
yeah. I just think that it would have been a point of emphasis from the ada to make sure she stated that hayes got out of the vehicle with gun in hand if that is actually what happened.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:11 pm to
So she mentions will's gun but not hayes'?
Posted by LesMiles BFF
Lafayette
Member since May 2014
5101 posts
Posted on 12/6/16 at 6:13 pm to
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So she mentions will's gun but not hayes'?


In what capacity? I remember her being asked if Will fired his gun at a range or if she knew what he did with it at FQF. Other than that idk if she gave any testimony about Will having a gun.

ETA: I agree with diat. If she testified that Hayes had a gun it surely wasn't very prominently pointed out.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 6:15 pm
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