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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:37 pm to Nado Jenkins83
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:37 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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what about him reaching for his gun, is that enough?
Not necessarily. Him reaching into his car or getting in his car is not enough, almost certainly.
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Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:37 pm to Chad504boy
quote:Biggest thing I have taken away from today:
Racquel Smith: I heard more shooting then someone say, 'You wanna show off for the effing white boy? Now, look at you now.'
Why do black people always think trashy arse hispanics are white people? George Zimmerman now this Hernandez douchebag
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:38 pm to lsupride87
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Second-degree murder is ordinarily defined as: 1) an intentional killing that is not premeditated or planned, nor committed in a reasonable "heat of passion"; or 2) a killing caused by dangerous conduct and the offender's obvious lack of concern for human life. Second-degree murder may best be viewed as the middle ground between
Where are you getting this from? That's not the Louisiana statute last time I checked. I could be wrong.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:38 pm to diat150
Reason being that HAYES HAD A frickING GUN PEOPLE
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:38 pm to Fun Bunch
Have they been able to determine how far away they were when the first shot was fired?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:40 pm to Fun Bunch
hear me out before you jump to conclusions here
what if Smith "did" hit hayes 3 times and thats when hayes grabs his .45? then smith says he is going get his gun? then the act of reaching for it?
I guess I would be on trial for manslaughter in that scenario.
don't say that didn't happen because you don't know. no copping out.
what if Smith "did" hit hayes 3 times and thats when hayes grabs his .45? then smith says he is going get his gun? then the act of reaching for it?
I guess I would be on trial for manslaughter in that scenario.
don't say that didn't happen because you don't know. no copping out.
This post was edited on 12/6/16 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:40 pm to Chad504boy
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Reason being that HAYES HAD A frickING GUN PEOPLE
and? did the smith party know that hayes had a gun? It didnt sound like it from his wife's testimony.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:40 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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The defense's argument is gonna be that he said "I have a gun" and then took action to retrieve said gun.
And think about that for a second. If you believe that, he's doing nothing more than putting himself in the same position as the guy who is currently holding a gun in his hand.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:40 pm to Fun Bunch
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There's absolutely no evidence that I'm aware of that suggests the physically attacked him to the point where he felt he was in imminent danger of losing his life or great bodily harm.
Watch the ESPN interview with O'Neal that came out this afternoon. I've also heard that Fuller has a witness who was on the scene who saw Smith strike Hayes not named O'Neal. But you are correct they haven't introduced that witness yet or his testimony so I was merging both together--so in anticipation of when O'Neal does testify I think the foundation will be set by Fuller for this defensive strategy.
I believe they only teach this in 2L at Loyola so your good.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:40 pm to Nado Jenkins83
Racquel claimed no physical contact
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:40 pm to Fun Bunch
2nd Degree Murder statute in La:
There's other stuff but that's the relevant part. I mean, he unloaded like 9 rounds at close range. I'd say that's specfic intent
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§30.1. Second degree murder
A. Second degree murder is the killing of a human being:
(1) When the offender has a specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm;
There's other stuff but that's the relevant part. I mean, he unloaded like 9 rounds at close range. I'd say that's specfic intent
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:41 pm to diat150
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and? did the smith party know that hayes had a gun? It didnt sound like it from his wife's testimony.
Are you kidding?
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:41 pm to diat150
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and? did the smith party know that hayes had a gun? It didnt sound like it from his wife's testimony.
initial reports from the smith camp was he got out the hummer with it in hand.
hayes said he pulled it after the "physical" altercation
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:42 pm to ihometiger
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I believe they only teach this in 2L at Loyola so your good.
I've been practicing for over a decade dude.
You're really drinking the Fuller KoolAid big time man.
We will see.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:42 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Why is there a semi colon?
There's other stuff but that's the relevant part. I mean, he unloaded like 9 rounds at close range. I'd say that's specfic intent
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:42 pm to Chad504boy
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Racquel claimed no physical contact
well i don't believe her. she was liquored up most likely.
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:42 pm to tLSU
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he guy who is currently holding a gun in his hand.
He brandished gun and came out car with it long before Will said a G word. Reasonable to think Will felt need to retrieve G for his own family's protection from dude holding a gun in confrontation w you
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:42 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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hayes said he pulled it after the "physical" altercation
well that is a change from what O'Neal has said in other interviews
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:43 pm to lsupride87
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Why is there a semi colon?
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There's other stuff
Posted on 12/6/16 at 4:43 pm to lsupride87
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Why do black people always think trashy arse hispanics are white people? George Zimmerman now this Hernandez douchebag
Hispanics are considered caucasians by many.
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