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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:28 pm to Mr. Hangover
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:28 pm to Mr. Hangover
Yore point is firm though, none of these guys wanted to really get down allowing women to stop them. It was all a front of showing off.
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Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:31 pm to Chad504boy
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Has anyone noticed how pathetic of an OP post we got that's stickied kind of funny
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So far OPSO Deputies just made a potential juror remove a @Saints sweatshirt going into #WillSmithTrial @wdsu
I think it sets a good tone for the thread with the over the top fan-boys that already convicted Cardell before the gun was cold.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:37 pm to diat150
quote:You say that as if it is a justifiable action? If WS had been moving towards him your point may be valid. But he was not.
he turns back and falls into the vehicle and is probably still moving so hayes steps up and finishes him off.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:42 pm to SuperSaint
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l before the gun was cold.
Good thing that's a long arse time in April after 10 shots
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:45 pm to Red Stick Tigress
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I think it was testified by Racquel that they didn't think they hit the Hummer in front of Juan's. This could be a result of their alcohol consumption.
Except didn't Hayes start to pull over after they hit the Hummer? They obviously would've seen this, consider they pulled around the Hummer at this time.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:56 pm to BayouBengals18
I have a real hard time reconciling what Raquel says with what I see. If I were a juror I'd likely toss my notes from her in the trash and stick to other witnesses. I don't mean this insultingly but she's just too invested in the outcome and seems to eager to paint a specific picture instead of present accurate information
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:59 pm to NoSaint
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have a real hard time reconciling what Raquel says with what I see. If I were a juror I'd likely toss my notes from her in the trash and stick to other witnesses. I don't mean this insultingly but she's just too invested in the outcome and seems to eager to paint a specific picture instead of present accurate information
Yeah, I thought Fuller could've been a little harder on her when she was on the stand, but maybe he'll call her back up.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 10:59 pm to SuperSaint
I think the only charge I could convict on at this point is negligent injury for RS gsw.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:00 pm to NoSaint
State made her go early on purpose. They listened to 30 hours of testimony from the state. How much from Raquel do you think they remembered?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:01 pm to BayouBengals18
quote:Video shows him pulling over to the right. When Will Smith turned to the left and went around him Hayes obviously felt dissed and then took off after him enraged.
Except didn't Hayes start to pull over after they hit the Hummer?
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:02 pm to potent357
Enraged? No.
Everyone at the scene of the second accident describes him as being calm.
Everyone at the scene of the second accident describes him as being calm.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:05 pm to diat150
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mrs smith is up against smith and end up taking shots in the leg
She had gunshot wounds to both legs by I think only one bullet, meaning she couldn't have been facing hayes, she had to be standing sideways, i.e. facing the driver's door of the Benz.
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 11:07 pm
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:09 pm to Red Stick Tigress
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She had gunshot wounds to both legs by I think only one bullet, meaning she couldn't have been facing hayes, she had to be standing sideways, i.e. facing the driver's door of the Benz.
I agree.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:16 pm to reddman
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Everyone at the scene of the second accident describes him as being calm.
I'm sure there are plenty cold blooded killers that are cool as cucumbers as they pull a trigger. Many people show no emotion during or after the commission of a crime.
It was testified to that Hayes was "exasperated" and was trying to justify what he had done. I remember this because someone had tweeted "exacerbated" and the word did not fit into the context so I searched for another tweeter.
I think it was stated that Hayes said "What else could I do?" or something to that effect after the shooting.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:20 pm to phil good
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She had gunshot wounds to both legs by I think only one bullet, meaning she couldn't have been facing hayes, she had to be standing sideways, i.e. facing the driver's door of the Benz.
I agree.
so... at the moment they were shot... Racquel and Will were having a conversation amongst themselves (and Will was facing away from his car)? that's essentially what's being thrown out right here
ok then... they're absolutely no threat at that moment... in fact they're completely exposed
This post was edited on 12/9/16 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:22 pm to Red Stick Tigress
There are as many different reactions to different circumstances as there are people. It is probably a mistake to judge a person based off of their response to a traumatic event. Some people panic. Some people withdraw. Jmo.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:24 pm to rt3
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so... at the moment they were shot... Racquel and Will were having a conversation amongst themselves (and Will was facing away from his car)? that's essentially what's being thrown out right here
ok then... they're absolutely no threat at that moment... in fact they're completely exposed
Speculation. Speculation. Speculation with limited information. Time to jump to a definite conclusion.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:28 pm to Peazey
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Speculation. Speculation. Speculation with limited information. Time to jump to a definite conclusion.
it's what I do
but seriously... just making sure they realize what they just said
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:37 pm to rt3
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quote:
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She had gunshot wounds to both legs by I think only one bullet, meaning she couldn't have been facing hayes, she had to be standing sideways, i.e. facing the driver's door of the Benz.
I agree.
so... at the moment they were shot... Racquel and Will were having a conversation amongst themselves (and Will was facing away from his car)? that's essentially what's being thrown out right here
ok then... they're absolutely no threat at that moment... in fact they're completely exposed
That is what I think happened from reading the media and watching videos from April 9 and beyond.
I think R & W were at the driver's door of the Benz talking when she was shot first then he took a hit to the side.
Once Racquel was shot, she crawled to the sidewalk away from the Benz. I think her location on the sidewalk was slightly ahead of where the Benz was located.
I don't think there's any way Will could have walked himself to his car after being shot 8 times. He HAD to be standing relatively close to the driver's door which was open. It is possible that after taking the first bullet, he turned toward his vehicle to get his gun but he was killed before that took place.
Posted on 12/9/16 at 11:48 pm to SuperSaint
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because all the testimony so far points to the Hayes camp as being the hot heads right?
We have testimony from an expert witness, that in his expert opinion, CH intentionally rammed the vehicle WS was in. We also have testimony that CH exited his vehicle with a gun. More testimony that CH's friend told everyone he had a gun.
Yeah, I'm not seeing them as the victim here.
Hayes had better be a damn good witness tomorrow, his freedom depends on it.
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