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re: Will Smith Murder Trial-Guilty of manslaughter and attempted manslaughter
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:54 pm to Chad504boy
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:54 pm to Chad504boy
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objection overruled.
Im holding you in contempt for excessive Saints fandom
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Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:54 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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RA'd for telling lies
Didn't you admit it in one of the original threads?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:55 pm to Chad504boy
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one witness said smith never contacted hayes
and the other said smith did nothing to deserve being shot in the back 7 times.
What does it take to deserve to get shot in the back 7 times?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:55 pm to sealawyer
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I am just trying to make sense of a good lawyer's seemingly confusing line of questioning
the answer is exactly how you are responding to it. can't you see that.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:55 pm to Fun Bunch
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So Hayes can have a gun pointed at him at point blank range, and smith wrestles with him to take the gun and gets shot.
I don't think that helps Hayes at all.
it doesn't have to pointed at him. maybe in the handchecking he felt it in his waistband.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:56 pm to sealawyer
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I personally think he has something up his sleeve.
He's a good lawyer but I don't think he has anything up his sleeve here.
His whole defense has been misdirection. He doesn't have much to work with so he's planting a lot of LOOK OVER HERE seeds. He's doing a good job of that.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:56 pm to sealawyer
It also goes but to the bad police investigation and corruption angle.
If Smith had residue on his hands and the gun wasn't recovered until the vehicle was being searched on Monday. Did Ceravolo remove the gun and place it back in the vehicle before it was "officially" found, like it was suggested by the defense to the media during the early days after the shooting?
If Smith had residue on his hands and the gun wasn't recovered until the vehicle was being searched on Monday. Did Ceravolo remove the gun and place it back in the vehicle before it was "officially" found, like it was suggested by the defense to the media during the early days after the shooting?
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:56 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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maybe in the handchecking he felt it in his waistband.
You're just making shite up man. That's not how this works.
There's nothing in evidence to suggest this whatsoever.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:56 pm to Fun Bunch
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Didn't you admit it in one of the original threads?
never
these clowns made it up because I think Will Smith was a wife beater and his wife spits in peoples face
all true
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:57 pm to TigerFred
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If Smith had residue on his hands and the gun wasn't recovered until the vehicle was being searched on Monday. Did Ceravolo remove the gun and place it back in the vehicle before it was "officially" found, like it was suggested by the defense to the media during the early days after the shooting?
That's 100% the plan. Its bullshite but that's the plan.
Fuller is good at doing that and from what I've heard from others its one of his biggest MO's.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:58 pm to Nado Jenkins83
you are truely a piece of work Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:58 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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never
Now I have to go through all of your posts before you delete it, because you 100% admitted to knowing him.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 3:59 pm to TigerFred
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If Smith had residue on his hands and the gun wasn't recovered until the vehicle was being searched on Monday. Did Ceravolo remove the gun and place it back in the vehicle before it was "officially" found, like it was suggested by the defense to the media during the early days after the shooting?
It puts both angles of defense in play.
a. Smith did go for and fire his gun, but the police investigation covered it up to protect Smith.
or
b. In the chaos, Smith went after Hayes aggressively and he fired in self defense, bullet striking wife, then Smith retreated for his gun.
Both of them are far fetched. But better than having nothing. And all you need to do is try to create some doubt with jurors.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 4:00 pm to Festus
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Fuller is done cross examination of Acosta. Nothing of Smith testing positive for gunshot residue.
Well
Posted on 12/8/16 at 4:00 pm to Festus
FYI:
As I said, its Fuller just putting it out there in the ether. It was bullshite.
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Ramon Antonio Vargas ? @RVargasAdvocate
Fuller is done cross examination of Acosta. Nothing of Smith testing positive for gunshot residue.
As I said, its Fuller just putting it out there in the ether. It was bullshite.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 4:01 pm to Fun Bunch
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Ramon Antonio Vargas ? @RVargasAdvocate
Acosta: If you eat a ham sandwich, you could test positive for a presumptive gunshot residue test.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 4:01 pm to Lazy But Talented
just another game being played by Fuller. unfortunate bc Hayes life is no game.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 4:02 pm to Fun Bunch
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As I said, its Fuller just putting it out there in the ether. It was bull shite.
Fuller had to have known this was going to be the answer. Now I am not sure what he is playing at.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 4:02 pm to Festus
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Both of them are far fetched. But better than having nothing. And all you need to do is try to create some doubt with jurors.
Exactly
Not saying that is what happened and I find it strange that if the witness says that three guns were recovered from the scene when we know that Smith's gun wasn't. If that is where he is heading I would think now is the time to bring it up.
Posted on 12/8/16 at 4:03 pm to sealawyer
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Fuller had to have known this was going to be the answer. Now I am not sure what he is playing at.
As I've said all along, it was just a LOOK OVER HERE thing. He never even asked if Smith had gun residue on him. Didn't even ask.
He wants to create as much confusion so he just drops all of these little insinuations all over the place in the hopes that the jury will pick up on a small point.
It would be bizarre to have a "trick up his sleeve" and not have the examiner admitting that there was gun powder residue on smith.
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