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Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:19 am to N2cars
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Gaucho bout to make bank
joke aside, if the welding profession is flooded with new tradesmen, what do you think happens to their compensation? But I guess it will beat being an unemployed coder.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:23 am to Tiger985
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You are either in denial or fundamentally do not understand the changes coming.
Prompt engineering? Seriously? For what, about 3 months.
If you've ever dealt with clients or employees who don't know anything about software and the web besides how to Google something, which is just about all of them, you'd know he's not wrong.
You're going to need experienced, professional human eyes to integrate technologies, issue prompts, or make sure edge cases are being properly accounted for, and probably all of them, otherwise you're going to end up with a bad product and/or a client who spins their wheels into an unsustainable mess because they don't know what they don't know. I don't see that changing anytime soon for any project that needs the slightest bit of customization or complexity.
TLDR: The weakest link isn't AI, it's an uninformed human using it.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 10:29 am
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:29 am to 904
The point isn't that coders are going to disappear. You are just going to need a small fraction of what is currently in the market.
Anyone suggesting otherwise is in denial.
AI will need babysitters and hand holding in the immediate future, for sure.
But if you have a hundred coders before AI, you won't still need 100 hand holders after AI.
Anyone suggesting otherwise is in denial.
AI will need babysitters and hand holding in the immediate future, for sure.
But if you have a hundred coders before AI, you won't still need 100 hand holders after AI.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:30 am to Tiger985
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You are either in denial or fundamentally do not understand the changes coming.
No - most of us have just been in this industry long enough to know the latest tech fad when we see it. Usually what happens is there is some change from the new tech, but not anywhere even close to the initial promises and predictions.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:32 am to Roaad
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But if you have a hundred coders before AI, you won't still need 100 hand holders after AI.
I agree with that. AI is a tool that's going to rapidly improve efficiency and already has in many cases. Unless I misinterpreted, the poster I was responding to is saying that you won't even need hand holders for more than 3 months.
You'll always need IT professionals to both provide maintenance and direction to AI, even if it's less of them in the industry.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:35 am to 904
When AGI becomes a reality, almost all white collar jobs will disappear in a month.
That is a looooong way off, hopefully, but it will happen.
That is a looooong way off, hopefully, but it will happen.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 10:36 am
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:38 am to Roaad
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But if you have a hundred coders before AI, you won't still need 100 hand holders after AI.
It is not that clear cut. Many organizations have a backlog of work with no budget or capacity to act on all of it. In the short term, it will just make those 100 developers be able to output more than they can today. It will take time before you start seeing decreases.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:40 am to Roaad
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When AGI becomes a reality, almost all white collar jobs will disappear in a month.
That's hyperbole. The massive dystopian economic issues resulting from something like that notwithstanding, it's going to take much more time than that to trickle down, and even then, you'll still need white collar workers.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:47 am to Roaad
People who decide to pursue a "work with your hands" field will be multimillionaires.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 10:47 am to HeadyMurphey
The software industry is already seeing sharp decreases
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:00 am to 904
quote:that is why I said almost all.
you'll still need white collar workers.
And it is happening faster than even I thought
We could be on pace to hit the Singularity within 4 years.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:05 am to Roaad
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software industry is already seeing sharp decreases
The industry was bloated and needed to have some turnover, that has nothing to do with AI. The pre covid tech boom and having an entire floor of people assigned as scrum masters or SharePoint power users is over.
Companies will not get rid of their 100 developers using AI, they will just become more efficient and get more done. I don't see AI directly causing layoffs for 10+ years.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:05 am to AwgustaDawg
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Technology is replacing trade jobs faster than white collar jobs and has been for about 100 years. There is not a trade in the US that requires more skill and knowledge today than it did 20 years ago and the skill and knowledge required 20 years ago wasn't comparable to what was required 20 years prior to that.
Technology is great about plumbing and HVAC repairs. While it's not a ton different than it was 20 years ago, Braxtyn and Bradyyin think it's beneath them to crawl into an attic or electrocute themselves in a garage.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:07 am to BoogaBear
quote:sure, but it is below pre-Covid levels. . .which was already in decline
that has nothing to do with AI.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:08 am to BoogaBear
I still see H1b and green card petitions for scrum masters
If there is a "tech" job that can absolutely no doubt be done by an American its scrum master
If there is a "tech" job that can absolutely no doubt be done by an American its scrum master
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:09 am to Roaad
It's also seeing CEOs with pies on their faces because they're realizing that least some of those employees who were let go actually needed to be retained, and that there's a rehiring boomerang phase going on in some areas.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/4084372/analysts-companies-will-face-setbacks-after-ai-layoffs.html
It will likely settle somewhere in the middle for the time being.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/4084372/analysts-companies-will-face-setbacks-after-ai-layoffs.html
It will likely settle somewhere in the middle for the time being.
This post was edited on 12/22/25 at 11:09 am
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:10 am to 904
Sure, they jumped the gun on the layoffs.
But they are still only rehiring a fraction of the laid off programners.
But they are still only rehiring a fraction of the laid off programners.
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:16 am to jdd48
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No - most of us have just been in this industry long enough to know the latest tech fad when we see it. Usually what happens is there is some change from the new tech, but not anywhere even close to the initial promises and predictions.
You think this is a tech fad?
Posted on 12/22/25 at 11:16 am to Tiger985
quote:just like the PC
You think this is a tech fad?
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