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re: Wildfires and Homeowners Insurance

Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:06 pm to
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:06 pm to
I’m not aware of insurance companies viewing a wildfire any different from a random house fire


Maybe they do though......no wildfires in Lafayette so I’m not sure

I have fire but no flood insurance
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:07 pm to
Named wildfires should be treated just as named hurricanes are. Higher deductibles and higher premiums in high risk areas and all.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:08 pm to
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I’m not aware of insurance companies viewing a wildfire any different from a random house fire


That’s my point. They should.
Posted by yellowfin
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:10 pm to
I’ll pass it on and let you know what they say
Posted by CommunityCollegeFTW
Member since Apr 2011
19144 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:10 pm to
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not cutting back forests or using controlled burns to control undergrowth


Pretty gross oversimplification. California burns due to the changing climate, the innate landscape of the state, and the fact those Santa Ana winds blow the fire around. Yes, there’s more vegetation to spread the fire faster, but it’s less to do with lack of controlled burns and more to do with the fact that there’s more PEOPLE and therefore less land available to burn in a controlled manner
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 9:12 pm
Posted by ItTakesAThief
Scottsdale, Arizona
Member since Dec 2009
10870 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:13 pm to
You certainly have more houses.

But you have to manage burnavle material.

There is no climate change. California has always been dry. Problem is that the water resources are the same but demand for water co run yes to increase and there is only so much water available. Now demand is higher than supply so they are controlled largely by fluctuations in snow pack which fluctuates.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:14 pm to
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on. California burns due to the changing climate


Please tell us specifically how the climate has changed in Californian to increase fire risk...
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26318 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:16 pm to
I’m sure they factor that into the premiums in places where wildfires occur, just like they factor hurricane wind damage risk into our premiums here
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:17 pm to
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I’ll pass it on and let you know what they say


Please. Keep me posted
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26318 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:18 pm to
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Lafayette
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no flood insurance
Posted by CommunityCollegeFTW
Member since Apr 2011
19144 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:21 pm to
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Please tell us specifically how the climate has changed in Californian to increase fire risk...


In the event you aren’t joking....rainfall in fall/winter months allows the vegetation to grow, and then it proceeds to dry out during the summer. Average temperatures 2-3 degrees warmer mean that same vegetation dries out even further. California has always been dry, but the temperature difference coupled with lack of rainfall means more fires. Of the 10 biggest fires in recorded California history (1932) 9 have occurred since 2000. 5 since 2010. And now this the worst in history.

If you don’t feel like 2-3 degrees difference matters, ask Australia about its Great Barrier Reef.
Posted by yellowfin
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:25 pm to
Don’t need it
Posted by lsuwins3
Member since Nov 2008
1973 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:28 pm to
If I live in an area that isn’t designated as a flood area but it floods insurance doesn’t cover me. But if I live in California wild fires I’m covered. No logic.

Other poster says why should someone in Colorado mountains cover our floods. Why should my rates go up to cover California wildfires? What about earthquakes?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:28 pm to
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Don’t need it

I technically don't need it in BR either and came within a counts hair of flooding in 16. My house is on about a 5-6 ft hill. shite got pretty interesting for a bit.
Posted by Lynyrd
Under the Tilt-a-Whirl
Member since Jun 2010
13386 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:31 pm to
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I’m sure they factor that into the premiums in places where wildfires occur, just like they factor hurricane wind damage risk into our premiums here

I was an insurance agent and have no knowledge of CA, but a house, exactly the same, in Bossier vs. NELA, is lower here due to weather. Shreveport has stronger storms and a higher risk due to that. Every region, even within a state, has an actuarial who is crunching numbers and assessing risk.
Posted by yellowfin
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Member since May 2006
99034 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:34 pm to
I cut my grass the day it stopped raining in 2016. Never even backed up on the street
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:34 pm to
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Average temperatures 2-3 degrees warmer mean that same vegetation dries out even further. California has always been dry, but the temperature difference coupled with lack of rainfall means more fires. Of the 10 biggest fires in recorded California history (1932) 9 have occurred since 2000. 5 since 2010. And now this the worst in history.



Wet season is trending shorter and shorter too. Which is especially problematic as things are very dry when the Santa Ana/offshore wind season starts going.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26318 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:34 pm to
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If I live in an area that isn’t designated as a flood area but it floods insurance doesn’t cover me.
If you have flood insurance it does. Lots of people on this board live in areas not designated as a flood area...ask them how that worked out 2 years ago.
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What about earthquakes?
Not automatic inclusion on a homeowner policy. Generally either an expensive optional add on or separate policy all together.

Louisiana people bitching about California wildfires causing their rates to go up is about the same as people up north complaining that their rates are going up to pay for Gulf coast hurricanes
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15815 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:37 pm to
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And now this the worst in history.


Worst in history how? Acerage? Buildings burned?
Posted by lsuwins3
Member since Nov 2008
1973 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:41 pm to
I’m not bitching about my rates going up just curious why one is covered under regular homeowners insurance and one isn’t.

I’m guessing if the damages get too high wildfires will be excluded. But then again we are dealing with California.
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