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Posted on 7/30/24 at 11:03 am to
Posted by Tiger Dan 16
Central City, New Orleans
Member since Jul 2024
112 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 11:03 am to
you gotta really feel for these people.

there's got to be something the fedgov can do to help them.
Posted by kjp811
Denver, CO
Member since Apr 2017
1054 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 11:14 am to
Hopefully the spread will get stymied once it reaches the Cameron Peak Fire scar.

But, they have the heavies out there fighting it. They had a two of them flying over my house a few times yester on their way back to Colorado Springs.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71116 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 12:53 pm to
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you gotta really feel for these people.

there's got to be something the fedgov can do to help them.

They're doing it. They tried their best not to do it, but they're doing it. The House finally passed the Wildland Firefighter Paycheck Protection Act, and the giant legislation it is part of is expected to pass the Senate soon. They've been kicking this issue down the road for several years now. The pay was already shite, and they got a bump due to some of the Covid spending. They've already passed emergency extensions for that pay hike, but had been unable, or unwilling, to pass permanent legislation that would at least fix their pay (not have them lose a chunk due to the Covid bump running out) until now. Unfortunately, they've already lost a considerable number of firefighters because of the uncertainty, and they're having trouble recruiting and keeping new hires. Some also quit when the vaccine mandate bullshite started, and they're still playing catch up from those losses.

We can spend money on all kinds of frivolous bullshite, but giving what amounts to peanuts in the budget to ensure you just have enough people to fight what some in our government call one of the biggest climate threats we face has been out of the question for too long. You have to have the people. If you don't have the people you can't fight the fires.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44120 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 1:19 pm to
We had a huge fire about an hour away from where I live here outside of Boise in Idaho. Almost 500k acres burned. It's still smokey enough to where I can't see the Boise foothills or Owyhee mountains. Fire was in Eastern Oregon, but pretty much right on the border with Idaho.
This post was edited on 7/30/24 at 1:21 pm
Posted by slinger1317
Northshore
Member since Sep 2005
6814 posts
Posted on 7/30/24 at 1:29 pm to
Been trying to plan a family trip to Glacier National Park for a few years. Seems like late July is the best time for our family, as well as catching everything open in the park between snow melt and the first new snow.

Only problem is that is when wildfires are usually all around, so the park is covered in smoke.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71116 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 2:27 pm to
A bad new one outside of Denver in the Deer Creek Canyon Park, called the Quarry Fire. It is a threat to a few subdivisions with a large number of homes.

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They're throwing a lot of resources at it right now. That post is a few hours old.
This post was edited on 7/31/24 at 2:28 pm
Posted by kjp811
Denver, CO
Member since Apr 2017
1054 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 5:08 pm to
This one is close to home for me. Fortunately, the winds are cooperating.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71116 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 5:14 pm to
I think this is the first one they have the new $30 million Firehawk chopper on. Those things are nice.

Scary area for a fire, though. Not much room to run without getting into those subdivisions.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71116 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 6:03 pm to
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 6:33 pm to
We were in Western Canada at the beginning of the month(SE B.C.) and not two weeks after we got back, wildfires broke out. The fires took out most of Jasper, AB..We definitely got there just at the right time.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71116 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 6:50 pm to
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The fires took out most of Jasper, AB..

Jasper will hopefully be the new model going forward as they rebuild. That town is in a terrible location that is the definition of Wilderness-Urban Interface. The Build>Insure>Replace model isn't cutting it, especially with wildfire. Hopefully, they're able to build back with fire resilience in mind. It is expensive to fire harden existing towns and properties, but it is still cheaper than rebuilding from scratch.
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
24763 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:23 pm to
Is this where someone sets the woods on fire and they blame it on Climate Change?
Posted by HippieTiger
Boulder, CO
Member since Oct 2015
2150 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:27 pm to
Doesn’t help that it’s warmer and dryer than ever, but sure, go ahead and politicize it
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71116 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:30 pm to
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Doesn’t help that it’s warmer and dryer than ever, but sure, go ahead and politicize it

That's an oversimplification and really not true for most places right now.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21475 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:49 pm to
Crispy people
Posted by One72
Member since Jul 2022
1185 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 7:57 pm to




All good here in Bend. Hazy but not too burnt smelling. Crazy Creek fire in south Central Oregon is closest to us.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 7/31/24 at 8:49 pm to
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Doesn’t help that it’s warmer and dryer than ever,


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HippieTiger

We have a true believer here.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71116 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:02 pm to
The Quarry Fire, just southwest of Denver, seems to be yet another case of arson.

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The now 550-acre Quarry fire was human caused, Jefferson County Sheriff's Office investigator Kevin Bost said Friday.

Investigators are suspicious that the fire started at 9 p.m. on the south side of Deer Creek Canyon, a dark mountain road with no cameras and no streetlights, just west of Grizzly Drive.

"Why would a fire start there at 9 o'clock at night?" asked Jefferson County Sheriff spokesman Mark Techmeyer. "It's got us scratching our heads."

"We preliminarily believe that this fire is human-caused in some manner," Bost said during a press conference Friday morning.

Techmeyer told The Denver Gazette that investigators are unclear whether the fire was caused intentionally, or by accident.

Locals seemingly agree that the start of the fire seems suspicious.

“It sure seems weird,” said David Broadway, a 26-year resident near the Valley Barrington neighborhood, in which Deer Creek Canyon Road is officially closed off. “It started in the middle of the night. There wasn’t a thunderstorm or anything. You’ve got to wonder what it was.”


Posted by everytrueson
San Diego
Member since Mar 2012
7456 posts
Posted on 8/2/24 at 11:42 pm to
One of my sisters and her husband and kids were packed up and ready to go because of the Quarry Fire. It was close enough that they were getting heavy ash. They have 40 acres in that area.

He is a firefighter so I am thankful for that. He knows his stuff and when it’s time to go. Thankfully they haven’t had to yet. That’s some steep, non accessible area.
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