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re: Why would anyone become a Doctor?
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:50 am to LSUtwolves
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:50 am to LSUtwolves
Used to work at a vet when I was a kid and they encouraged me to do that 
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Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:54 am to 777Tiger
777 will most certainly agree with me.
But I think the best ROI for a high paying job is becoming a Commercial Pilot. The training can be expensive, but can also be done somewhat cheaply to attain all ratings. Even the most expensive zero to her programs like ATP cost under 100K.
Once at 1500 hours even the regionals pay halfway decent now. Work your way up to the airlines - even spirit, frontier, etc pay fantastically. If you’re smart you’ll fly for a cargo outfit like FedEx. Make a shite ton of money. Deal with zero people. In my opinion that’s the smartest route. Oh, the time off too.
But I think the best ROI for a high paying job is becoming a Commercial Pilot. The training can be expensive, but can also be done somewhat cheaply to attain all ratings. Even the most expensive zero to her programs like ATP cost under 100K.
Once at 1500 hours even the regionals pay halfway decent now. Work your way up to the airlines - even spirit, frontier, etc pay fantastically. If you’re smart you’ll fly for a cargo outfit like FedEx. Make a shite ton of money. Deal with zero people. In my opinion that’s the smartest route. Oh, the time off too.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:03 am to CoyoteSong
There's no way that's accurate.
The OP was talking about doctors who completed 5 year residency, not 2 and 3 year residencies like the family practice doctors. 5 year residency means you are doing something like cardiology or surgery.
The OP was talking about doctors who completed 5 year residency, not 2 and 3 year residencies like the family practice doctors. 5 year residency means you are doing something like cardiology or surgery.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:05 am to TDTOM
derm, ortho, any specialty surgery (neuro, ortho, ENT, uro, optho) are the hardest to match.
radiology was before but it dropped some because of job shortages in post recession and obamacare times (2010-2015). now it's coming back as far as competitiveness because jobs are plentiful and reimbursement is good.
we only have 20 years or so before AI takes over i think, but i'll be retired by then with a pension.
radiology was before but it dropped some because of job shortages in post recession and obamacare times (2010-2015). now it's coming back as far as competitiveness because jobs are plentiful and reimbursement is good.
we only have 20 years or so before AI takes over i think, but i'll be retired by then with a pension.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:07 am to CoyoteSong
Dentistry is the way to go. 3-4 years of college, 4 years of dental school. 9-5 work hours, no weekends, rare emergency calls, 6 figures straight out of school, then a few years later $200K (or much more) on a 4 day work week.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 11:09 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:08 am to CoyoteSong
You definitely have to enjoy medicine and helping people, however the money is a huge draw.
My wife and I are on track to be able to retire in our mid to late 50's with 10 million+ in the bank. On the flip side, there are many doctors we know who have been divorced multiple times and have no choice but to work until the hospital refuses to renew their privileges.
There are very few professions that will afford that type of income potential.
That being said, a lot of days are soul crushing and call can be terrible.
My wife and I are on track to be able to retire in our mid to late 50's with 10 million+ in the bank. On the flip side, there are many doctors we know who have been divorced multiple times and have no choice but to work until the hospital refuses to renew their privileges.
There are very few professions that will afford that type of income potential.
That being said, a lot of days are soul crushing and call can be terrible.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:10 am to CoyoteSong
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How Much Does a Physician Make? Physicians made a median salary of $206,500 in 2019. The best-paid 25 percent made $208,000 that year, while the lowest-paid 25 percent made $112,210
That is wildly inaccurate data
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:10 am to CoyoteSong
Going through life dumb is going to be a struggle. Good luck.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 11:11 am
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:11 am to OTIS2
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Going through life dumb is going to be a struggle. Good luck.
meh, I've managed so far
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:12 am to CoyoteSong
You believe those numbers???
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:15 am to shel311
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Well, not really. A lot of people replied to him talking about the residency period being a waste of years, so people replied with reasons it's not a waste.
Said residency was constant partying.
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That doesn't mean those are top reasons to be a doctor, those were just replies to the OP incorrectly assuming all you in your 20s during residency is work and sleep.
Right seems like it's a lot of partying before making a lot of money thereafter.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:19 am to LSUtwolves
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i signed with a group making 300k for 1 year and then partner after that, averaging 700k a year. I don't like the area i live in so i'm switching jobs to a fully remote, 7 days on and 14 days off gig making 650k a year with full match 401k, and a pension after 20 years.
Damn B, you doing radiology? That's a sweet gig.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:22 am to CoyoteSong
Because they earn more in a month than you do in a year.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:24 am to TigrrrDad
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Dentistry is the way to go. 3-4 years of college, 4 years of dental school. 9-5 work hours, no weekends, rare emergency calls, 6 figures straight out of school, then a few years later $200K (or much more) on a 4 day work week
One of my friends is an orthodontist and runs a practice by himself. I know he does good work, but he just has a bunch of pretty assistants that do the work and he walks around looks at teeth movement and then makes recommendations for his assistants to do or note for next time.
He has a really nice house, truck, and takes a whole bunch of trips every year.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:25 am to CoyoteSong
I’d just marry one before becoming a doctor…..much less work
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:29 am to tiggerthetooth
residency is where you basically are inundated with every possible scenario that can happen in your field so that you are ready to handle it when you are practicing on your own.
the attending is liable for what's going on so you don't have that weight on you as you learn and take your licks.
it's an extremely busy and stressful period, but honestly it becomes normal pretty quickly and you don't even realize the stress anymore.
and the partying is pretty intense. it's how residents release all the stress that they don't even realize they're under.
it isn't a waste of time.
the attending is liable for what's going on so you don't have that weight on you as you learn and take your licks.
it's an extremely busy and stressful period, but honestly it becomes normal pretty quickly and you don't even realize the stress anymore.
and the partying is pretty intense. it's how residents release all the stress that they don't even realize they're under.
it isn't a waste of time.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:32 am to LSUtwolves
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LSUtwolves
I’m 7 on, 7 off. I work 100% remotely now since Covid. I’ll probably keep going for a few more years of 7 and 7. Then I plan to scale back to 1 week on, 2 weeks off too.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:33 am to CoyoteSong
I'm curious how excited some of you doctors were on your first day on the job as an actual doctor? What's it like putting on that white coat for the first time with nobody over you? Ever get a little nervous in the beginning you may be fricking something up or completely wrong? I bet there are cool times where you did a thorough evaluation and found something serious that may have been looked over by many other doctors that makes you feel good.
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:34 am to LSUtwolves
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and the partying is pretty intense. it's how residents release all the stress that they don't even realize they're under.
it isn't a waste of time.
I busted my arse as I was leaving LSU to get where I'm at(wasn't even able to attend graduation,) took the better part of my 20s to get to where I could pretty much put it on autopilot and have had a blessed career, those years of busting arse, 100% goal driven and undeterrable are without question the greatest, most fun years of my life
Posted on 9/29/21 at 11:34 am to CoyoteSong
So they can take home $3m annually and buy new Ferraris.
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