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re: Why would a tour company not want a big group to have tents on the Appalachian Trail?

Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:33 pm to
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:33 pm to
There are tons of school groups every year that do this.

My 9th grade niece is going in 3 weeks to do the same thing.

Trip required by the school.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 4:34 pm
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:34 pm to
"...on the Appalachian Trail" doesn't tell us much - it spans 14 states. Different sections have different regulations as to where you can pitch tents (if at all), the number of campers at a site, etc.

I am guessing you mean in the Smokeys? That's a national park. You can read their regulations online, which the enforce VIGOROUSLY.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:36 pm to
You aren’t allowed to use them in parts

You must use provided shelters
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

"...on the Appalachian Trail" doesn't tell us much - it spans 14 states. Different sections have different regulations as to where you can pitch tents (if at all), the number of campers at a site, etc.

I am guessing you mean in the Smokeys?
somewhere in Virginia...not exactly sure where in VA
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:40 pm to
It’s tick season

Make sure chicken jr’s socks and pants are treated with permathrim
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:40 pm to
An 8x8 tarp weighs just ounces and each kid could use one and sleep burrito style. It will be fine.

Word on the street is you weren't this type of parent. Very disappointing.

Maybe DPH is right...
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:40 pm to
ah. Part of the Virginia trail is in the Shenandoah National Park. Strict regs there, too.

Virginia has some stunning scenery-- don't let your kids miss it unless you really feel that the tour company are morons. They can handle sleeping outside, depending on the time of year.
Posted by dukee7
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:41 pm to
It’s all because you had those loafers on.

Karma
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:41 pm to
I 100% applaud the idea of kids getting into the outdoors and doing something hard and strenuous instead of going to video game camp or sexual harassment awareness camp or something. That being said, I would have to give some serious thought to this plan for a group of kids much less adults.

When we hiked the AT we stayed in the pre-built shelters that had chain link on the front to keep the damn bears out and we did see bears. No way I would sleep on the ground in the open after that.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Word on the street is you weren't this type of parent. Very disappointing.

Maybe DPH is right...
not my kid...my kids all went to Washington DC for 8th grade trip...
Posted by tigerfoot
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:42 pm to
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Does this trip seem like a bad idea? or are these parents being overprotective?

No and waaaayyyyy overprotective....as in not even close to rational.

These are 8th graders, not pre k. We will be sticking them in cars in a couple years to drive and run errands. Buy them a good sleeping bag and a pad and be done and let them go have fun.
Posted by Winston Cup
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Does this trip seem like a bad idea?

good lord yes

just make sure chicken jr gets a travel trailer or rv to sleep in
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:44 pm to
quote:

There are tons of school groups every year that do this.

My 9th grade niece is going in 3 weeks to do the same thing.

Seems a ton better than a canned trip. Imagine the kids with no cell reception or phones for a week. They may turn into normal humans again for a few days.
Posted by MikeD
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:46 pm to
I would let them go. They will be plenty warm in the sleeping bag. I'm sure the tour company has done this before. Tents can add lbs. quickly to their pack weight.

Posted by poppa1254
Moody, AL
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:48 pm to

If you go anywhere with a selection of sleeping bags they have the temperature ranges they're meant for on the label.

Buy one that's considered "oversized" in the correct temperature range so they can zip it up over their head and fit a pillow.

Some of the best sleep I've ever gotten was zipped up in a sleeping bag in the freezing cold. I didn't have a tarp overhead either.
Posted by LCA131
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

just make sure chicken jr gets a travel trailer or rv to sleep in


It's not his kids, you da. His went on the 8th grade trip to DC.

Try to keep up.
Posted by Polycarp
Texas
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:56 pm to
It's a little of it all. I would bet there is no place on the trail--campsite wise- to accommodate a large group, all with tents. Most of the people who hike that trail do it in pairs, or solo. They will need that much water, no doubt. The temps, while cool in the night/AM will be chilly, once you get moving that's a non-issue. If the tarp (s) can shield them from most of the rain, I would let my kid go without a doubt.
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
Member since Jun 2014
10896 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:56 pm to
There just trying to make these kids men, nothing better than cowboy camping as long as you ain’t a little bitch
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11091 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:56 pm to
A total lack of understanding of what the AT is is the first problem.

It's not paved, heck it's not even graveled. Many places it's one person wide and it is marked the old fashioned way.

Tents-balderdash. Setting that many stakes in, each night for each person hiking the trail would tear up the ground cover and encourage erosion.

there are shelters, and those should be where the kiddies are spending the nights. On the ground? Has anyone heard of bears?

To me it sounds as if someone is building an ultralight air plane before they've built their first balsa wood ten inch unpowered glider.

Start with a day hike, get it right, then go some other trails.

Tour companies are not often associated with the AT. I'm not sure they are even legal.

Things that should be happening: water filtration systems belong with every hiker (and how to use them). How to read maps. What happens if Susie Creamcheese freaks out when it gets dark, like black with no light and she can't get a signal to call home?

You might want to search for the hiker lost in Maine whose body was found a year later, not that far off the trail.

Are the kids mature enough not to do stupid things? There are still bodies missing in the Smokies where a kid wandered away from his family and has never been found.
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