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Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:33 am to RedRifle
Obviously the answer is to stop working on this and settle for the fact that technology has never improved.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:33 am to CAD703X
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The systems designed today are designed to merely help the driver not replace the driver.
quote:You just admitted it's the driver's fault without realizing it.
ding ding ding
this is the tipping point, friends.
driver ASSISTED technology vs FAKE GOD OF ROBOT CARS that encourage drivers to take a nap in the backseat and leave the driving to HAL
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:34 am to Ross
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You need to slow down on the shift key usage, friend.
you need to slow your face down
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:35 am to shel311
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You just admitted it's the driver's fault without realizing it.
what?? i was the biggest champion in that other dumb thread for driver assisted technologies, not robot cars that CREATE DRIVER DISTRACTION.
are you really this dense or just like pretending you don't get it?
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:36 am to KG6
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No, this is where some people realize we can barely make anything that doesn't have a glitch in it. So let's not quite jump to the point of thinking cars will be driving themselves by 2020.
I wonder if horse and buggy guys made a similar argument when cars first started showing up?
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:37 am to CAD703X
quote:Read this again...very slowly:
what?? i was the biggest champion in that other dumb thread for driver assisted technologies, not robot cars that CREATE DRIVER DISTRACTION.
are you really this dense or just like pretending you don't get it?
quote:
The systems designed today are designed to merely help the driver not replace the driver.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:39 am to shel311
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The systems designed today are designed to merely help the driver not replace the driver.
so thats what happened when the tesla ran rull speed into a tractor trailer and decaptiated the driver?
was that 'help'?
what about the poor woman crossing 4 lanes of traffic and an uber killing machine going 38mph couldn't avoid hitting her.
how about the tesla that just fricked that firetruck in the arse today?
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:40 am to RedRifle
Yeah, a girl here did the same thing (not into the back of a fire truck) because she was texting while driving. The computer glitch in the car can be fixed, the girl still has free will to text and drive
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:41 am to RedRifle
Is Tesla a German made car now?
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:41 am to CAD703X
quote:The most amazing part of this is that these are the ONLY 3 accidents involving cars in the last few years!!!!
so thats what happened when the tesla ran rull speed into a tractor trailer and decaptiated the driver?
was that 'help'?
what about the poor woman crossing 4 lanes of traffic and an uber killing machine going 38mph couldn't avoid hitting her.
how about the tesla that just fricked that firetruck in the arse today?
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:42 am to CAD703X
You do realize that drivers get into wrecks in those same situations all. the. time.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:44 am to MontyFranklyn
quote:Bingo!!!
Yeah, a girl here did the same thing (not into the back of a fire truck) because she was texting while driving. The computer glitch in the car can be fixed, the girl still has free will to text and drive
The best part, that most of the anti-Tesla/autonomous car guys seem to miss, is that in the case of the lady with the bike who was hit...looking at the video, no one would really question the driver if it weren't a self-driving car. Virtually everyone would think, "yea, she kinda came out of nowhere, he's not at fault here."
But we do question why the self-driving car did not see that, which is a fair question.
But somehow reading those 2 statements, the light bulb isn't quite going off for the detractors.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:47 am to CorporateTiger
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You do realize that drivers get into wrecks in those same situations all. the. time.
so of course its ok if robot cars kill a few people too right?
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:48 am to CAD703X
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so of course its ok if robot cars kill a few people too right?
Well we don't have to waste taxpayer money on trials and incarcerations.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:49 am to shel311
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The best part, that most of the anti-Tesla/autonomous car guys seem to miss, is that in the case of the lady with the bike who was hit...looking at the video, no one would really question the driver if it weren't a self-driving car. Virtually everyone would think, "yea, she kinda came out of nowhere, he's not at fault here."
except that narrative has been completely blown up by people who actually noted:
- tons more lighting in that area
- woman was slow walking a bike across 4 unhindered-view lanes of traffic
- robot car never slowed, braked or took evasive action. KILL ALL HUMANS
- driver was nodding off because she was told to sit in the car to satisfy the dumb old bureaucrat regulators.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:49 am to CAD703X
My favorite part of CAD's rants on this topic is his sig quote, which was me just posting an actual fact based on actual data that he seemed to think was super funny and out there and sig worthy.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:51 am to RedRifle
Looks like someone at Tesla should be... fired
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:53 am to CAD703X
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so of course its ok if robot cars kill a few people too right?
You are creating a straw man that having human drivers would save lives in total. Human drivers are what they are, they are never getting better.
Driverless cars, setting aside timelines, have a huge likelihood to save lives. This won’t be the first or last technology that ends up killing people as it is developed and refined.
See for instance air travel. Another one will be space travel and mining.
Posted on 3/28/18 at 9:56 am to CorporateTiger
quote:That's a bingo.
You are creating a straw man that having human drivers would save lives in total. Human drivers are what they are, they are never getting better.
Driverless cars, setting aside timelines, have a huge likelihood to save lives. This won’t be the first or last technology that ends up killing people as it is developed and refined.
This technology is already arguably safer than human drivers and in the next 10, 20, 50 years it will undoubtedly be MUCH safer than human drivers as the tech progresses, and as you said, humans are what they are, we're not going to get much better at this driving thing.
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