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re: Why is Mike Tyson viewed favorably?

Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:00 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:00 am to
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Would I trust him around my daughter? frick no


Right but I would love to chat a while with him.
Posted by moontigr
Washington Commanders Fan
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:01 am to
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Desiree Washington


Has to be one of the dumbest women who ever lived. You don't go up to Mike Tyson's hotel room just to "hang out."
Posted by labratz
Member since Nov 2014
128 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:31 am to
Everyone loves a good comeback story.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:35 am to
Everyone likes a winner, especially one who did it such dominant fashion.
Posted by HeLeakin
Member since May 2014
3312 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:43 am to
He's literally a boxing genius. Very few people have studied and analyzed as many boxers and fights as him. He had access to Cus D'Amato's video library as a teen and learned how to breakdown fight film.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28708 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:44 am to
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I would honestly try to encourage you to not have that naive of a mind set
I would honestly encourage you to lighten the frick up. Why are you so mad at Mike?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260570 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:45 am to
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Everyone likes a winner, especially one who did it such dominant fashion.


Yep, everyone was afraid of Tyson in his prime.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:46 am to
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On that particular night, he would've beaten any boxer in history


Impossible to validate. I mean, I feel the same way about Ali in Zaire. If he can take the beating he took from Foreman, there's nothing Tyson could do any different.

Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 12:32 pm to
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Everyone likes a winner, especially one who did it such dominant fashion.



I guess that's why Ray Lweis is so revered? probable murderer, definite perjurer, and obstructor of justice in a murder case
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4312 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 1:19 pm to
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Everyone likes a winner, especially one who did it such dominant fashion.

I stated in a previous post that I’m not a fan of Tyson but ultimately the above is the answer for society at large. People will give talented and entertaining performers a pass for a lot of shite. It’s the Average Joe with no special skills or talents who has to take the hard road to redemption, especially men. A reasonably attractive woman can frick up her life and some pussy hungry guy will still marry her and give her a comfortable life. Men have to be useful or productive in some way other than sex and procreation for anyone to give a frick about them.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89542 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 2:49 pm to
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He had one great victory in his resume and that was a terrified Michael Spinks.



This is evidence of boxing ignorance. No, the division wasn't as loaded from 85 to, say, 90 as it was during the 70s. But, the period that had Sonny Liston, Ali, Frazier, Norton, Foreman, Holmes, Shavers, etc., was an anomaly.

Marciano destroyed the division in the 50s and the knock is, "Dearth of great fighters against whom to prove himself." Yet, Marciano defeated Jersey Joe, twice (the rematch by KO in the first round), La Starza, twice, Ezzard Charles, twice, an aging Joe Louis and Archie Moore.

Same thing for Tyson pre-Douglas - he handled Quick Tillis and Mitch "Blood" Green before he was 20 years old. Trevor Berbick was 35-4-1 when Tyson faced him. Pinklon Thomas only had 1 loss coming into the Tyson fight. Carl "The Truth was a lie" Williams only had 2 losses (22-2) going into the Tyson fight. That fight took 93 seconds and 10 of that was the count.

Until Douglas, he handled whatever heavyweight they put in front of him. There was just no "Frazier" or "Foreman" equivalent for him, as Ali had.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Member since Aug 2019
7830 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:00 pm to
Mike Tyson's stuck to being himself, is generally likeable, and hasn't informed us about his politics (far as I know).
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30112 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:01 pm to
Exactly. Stayed in his lane, more or less. Unlike a Lebron James.
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Caraway Rye
Member since Oct 2021
5108 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:26 pm to
After reading the facts and the story around his rape conviction I am not exactly inclined to agree with the conviction.

So he did his time and moved on and that's that.

Nothing more for me to do. What exactly should we be doing OP?
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:56 pm to
Even if there was a plan to have sex, that doesn’t give him free reign to do whatever he wants if she later decides no. What if she had planned to have sec with him but then got there and changed her mind? Can he just have sex with her anyway? What’s your honest opinion, think about your sister or mom in a similar situation.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89542 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 3:58 pm to
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Even if there was a plan to have sex, that doesn’t give him free reign to do whatever he wants if she later decides no.


True. Ms. Washington had a credibility issue, largely because of her public behavior with Tyson prior to being alone with him, the context of her allegations and her prior history of accusing an earlier acquaintance of rape.

This is likely a situation where she had strict parenting, was caught experimenting with her sexuality and cried "Rape!" to avoid domestic consequences. Now, I say that while admitting there was a criminal conviction that has never been overturned, so, as far as the law goes he raped her.

I just don't believe he actually raped her in the literal sense of that word.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:06 pm to
I love all of the comments like “he stuck to being himself”, “he never tried to be anything by else” etc. Why is it admirable to be “real” or genuine if the real or genuine is a moron piece of shite?
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:09 pm to
Well I don’t mean “later” as in after the fact. But just because there was maybe an understanding that they would frick, doesn’t mean she didn’t get cold feet and change her mind, ffs she was 18
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30112 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:18 pm to
Do you love them really? Because I have mental problems and am incapable of discerning seriousness from facetiousness.

But if you’re being facetious, I’d surmise that you’re possibly extrapolating a little too much. Myself, I did make such a statement, but the intent was to merely demonstrate that it makes it a good bit easier to look past those personal flaws when they’re not mad dogging you with how your political or religious etc stances are wrong and stupid, and of course theirs is the model opinion and position. Again, much like your Lebron Jameses and such.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 4:22 pm to
I get it, people respect being real or genuine, but there has to be some limits to that. Was Hitler “real” was Stalin? Pol Pot? They never apologized or pretended to be anything but themself. Are they admirable?
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