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re: Why Is it illegal to have a woman sign a contract, stating that she wont get pregnant
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:28 pm to crazycubes
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:28 pm to crazycubes
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you have to ask in a stealth way .
"So, tell me about your home life?"
I would advise against that.
If you're truly concerned about hiring a woman because she might become pregnant, then I would suggest that you need to:
A) Retire. The working world has passed you by.
B) Grow-up. Being "that guy" in the office will not get you that far these days.
C) Leave your company. Soon enough, you will be embroiled in a lawsuit or, at the very least, have some serious morale issues.
D) Educate yourself. It's a big world out there - read a book on labor law, employee engagement, retention, etc., it will help you in the long-run.
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Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:34 pm to crazycubes
quote:
"So, tell me about your home life?"
Well that opens you up for a lawsuit. A better way to put it where you don't get sued is "Tell me about something outside of the work environment that you're passionate in" or "Tell me something about you that most people wouldn't suspect". "Home life" to me says "Tell me if you are married and have kids so I know how much the insurance is going to run us and if I can't save a bit of money hiring a single person."
My answers could range anywhere from golf, movies, to pub trivia, so it doesn't open you up in the way "home life" does. "Home life" also opens you up for religious and sexual orientation discrimination. A very, very stupid choice of words if you ask that.
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 9:10 pm
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:35 pm to RummelTiger
E) start a thread on the OT and get everyone riled up.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:37 pm to LakeViewLSU
Just hire a man and you won't have deal with that shite!
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:37 pm to OMLandshark
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OMLandshark
:fistbump:
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:37 pm to LakeViewLSU
I worked at a small 12 employee firm where this older bitch got hired and had a hysterectomy on day 91 of her employment. She fricked all of us since the insurance company canceled the group policy the next year.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:40 pm to RummelTiger
What stops her from quitting when she comes back?
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:42 pm to jmarto1
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What stops her from quitting when she comes back?
Nothing.
What stops a man from walking in on Monday and quitting?
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:45 pm to LakeViewLSU
at the OP changePosted on 8/5/17 at 2:45 pm to RummelTiger
Hence the train of thought. Women know they can use this. It's those women that feed the train of thought of just hiring men or avoid women that might get pregnant. That a my point here.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:48 pm to LakeViewLSU
Because leftists
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:49 pm to jmarto1
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Hence the train of thought. Women know they can use this. It's those women that feed the train of thought of just hiring men or avoid women that might get pregnant. That a my point here.
It's not a very good point.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:50 pm to RummelTiger
That there are women that abuse he system? It might not be a good point but it doesn't mean it isn't a valid point
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:52 pm to OMLandshark
quote:please cite the law that says I can't ask that?
Well that opens you up for a lawsuit
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:56 pm to jmarto1
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That there are women that abuse he system?
The numbers that "abuse" the system are infinitesimal compared to the overall workforce. Therefore, in my mind, it's an irrelevant point.
That said, I will ask - what is it that makes you feel as if they're abusing the system? Who are they taking advantage of?
Posted on 8/5/17 at 2:58 pm to LakeViewLSU
I know women who got jobs for the specific purpose of having a kid. There isn't shite you can do except hire single women I suppose.
It's annoying in television. They have to either work around it or write it into the story.
It's annoying in television. They have to either work around it or write it into the story.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 3:00 pm to crazycubes
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please cite the law that says I can't ask that?
There's no law that says you can't ask that specifically, but there's also no law that says you can't slouch your shoulders when someone asks you a question at work, but I know of at least one company that lost a lawsuit by a hiring manager doing just that.
The point is, THAT question opens you and the company up to a lawsuit based on what you were inferring with that question. If you were to ask that question to the wrong person, one who might become vindictive if not hired, then all they would have to do is threaten a sexual discrimination lawsuit, and I would bet that your company would settle to avoid a potentially embarrassing trial.
So, if you had just said, "tell me a little about yourself", or "what do you like to do for fun on the weekends", or just picked up on social clues...then you could avoid all of that.
Posted on 8/5/17 at 3:02 pm to RummelTiger
I just w-9 females
Simplifies things
Simplifies things
Posted on 8/5/17 at 3:04 pm to Rouge
Posted on 8/5/17 at 3:05 pm to crazycubes
quote:
please cite the law that says I can't ask that?
Because asking about their home life puts you actively asking about protected classes. If they bring up that they're Orthodox Jews or that he has a husband, then they can fricking sue you if they don't get the job. You can also be checking to see how much in insurance they're going to cost you with the family. If single chick who is 26 applies and is less qualified than a 34 year old married woman with a kid and she's more qualified, then you can expect a lawsuit from the 34 year old when you ask about "home life" and she doesn't get the job.
I mean what else are you going to get from "home life" than something you can get sued for? Home life you're not going to say "oh I'm a big golfer" or "I've studied abroad and speak another language". That's ask about passions and not home life. The only information you're going to get from that question is reasons not to hire that person. If an interviewer asked me that, red flags would be going up all over the place.
Stop that stupid question in interviews, because you will get sued and lose in court over that. That is a question clearly targeted to exclude other people from the job rather than their actual qualifications.
This post was edited on 8/5/17 at 3:09 pm
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