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re: Why is abortion such a huge deal?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:04 pm to Bonkers119
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:04 pm to Bonkers119
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The government shouldn't have control over a woman's body, it's as simple as that.
It is truly an ethical dilemma. Anyone saying the solution is simple and clear is biased.
The best outcome would be for abortion to be legal, but no one ever did it.
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Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:08 pm to AwesomeSauce
quote:Drunk drivers are a danger to the rest of us, as are murderers, thieves, etc.
If we want to get drunk and drive we should be able, no one should tell us what we can and can't do to our bodies!
Women who get abortions, and the doctors who perform them, are not.
Actually, forcing women to have children they don't want is the danger to the rest of us. It's more like if you get drunk then we'll force you to drive.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:12 pm to Korkstand
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Drunk drivers are a danger to the rest of us
Worst that can happen innocent life is taken.
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Women who get abortions, and the doctors who perform them, are not.
Worst that can happen innocent life is taken.
Both deal with bodily autonomy have the ultimate end result. Quantify and rationalize it how you must, but objectively the two are more similar than your dismissive attitude makes them to be.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:12 pm to SammyTiger
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There are secular reasons to believe life starts at conceptions
And secular teaching it was your first born's arse if he was male as told in Exodus.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:13 pm to mindbreaker
Why am I a nut job? Because I know fentanyl is killing thousands of people?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:18 pm to Palmetto98
Read up on how abortions are done at specific stages of pregnancy. It's been proven babies feel pain in the womb. Late term abortions are particular horrific and if the baby is born alive it's just left aside with no intervention until it dies. Birth control pills were in the beginning stages when roe vs wade came down. Now with the many birth control options, it's no excuse for accidents. Adoption is viable option. Rape victims can obtain the morning after pill. There are even tests done early very early in pregnancy that can test for major genetic disorders etc. i am
Totally against late term abortions. 12-15 weeks is long enough to decide if only option and if they need the abortion that bad let them travel to another state. Regardless of the ruling, abortion can be obtained if a person feels that's their only option for whatever reason. But I again urge all these people protesting and arguing for abortion to actually see what happens to these innocent children with no anesthetic
Totally against late term abortions. 12-15 weeks is long enough to decide if only option and if they need the abortion that bad let them travel to another state. Regardless of the ruling, abortion can be obtained if a person feels that's their only option for whatever reason. But I again urge all these people protesting and arguing for abortion to actually see what happens to these innocent children with no anesthetic
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:18 pm to AwesomeSauce
quote:So close, yet so far.
Worst that can happen innocent life is taken.
Both deal with bodily autonomy have the ultimate end result. Quantify and rationalize it how you must, but objectively the two are more similar than your dismissive attitude makes them to be.
The test here is how do your actions affect (or potentially affect) me?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:24 pm to Palmetto98
Yea, I mean slavery isn't as important as the economic and safety policies of the WHOLE nation. Why would people be so worked up about it?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:28 pm to Snipe
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Again, the liberal brainwashing of no personal responsibility or accountability on full display.
Geez...lighten up, Francis. You don't recognize a little tongue-in-cheek humor when you see it?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:28 pm to mindbreaker
I mean why not, dr appointments aren’t cheap and they both made the baby.
So you feel as if the woman did not want her baby that the father should have no say?
Or what if the female wants an abortion but the males doesn’t. Then what??
How about just be responsible for your actions and accept the repercussions. We all learned what happens if you have sex when we was in 6th grade.
So you feel as if the woman did not want her baby that the father should have no say?
Or what if the female wants an abortion but the males doesn’t. Then what??
How about just be responsible for your actions and accept the repercussions. We all learned what happens if you have sex when we was in 6th grade.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:31 pm to Palmetto98
Responsibility cannot be legislated.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:49 pm to Korkstand
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me
Is your question self absorbed as in your world only, or reflected as does your decision have an effect on others. If the first then you're a lost cause, so whatever. If the second, then abortion absolutely has effects that go beyond the woman, not limited to physical but also psychological and emotional.
Unless of course at bare minimum you believe that almost all doctors and scientists whom overwhelmingly agree that human life begins at conception are wrong?!
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:55 pm to statman34
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It is a division topic and is used to further the wedge between right and left in order to do the real bad stuff behind the scenes that destroy our country.
Nailed it.
Just one big distraction after another.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:55 pm to Korkstand
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how do we actually solve either of these problems?
You cant
laws are on the book because we know people are going to commit a certain act. You cant stop them. You can ratchet up penalties to discourage them, but in the end some people dont give a frick
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:04 pm to Palmetto98
You know, if killing babies didn’t bother me, I wouldn’t question what’s everyone upset over. I would probably question what’s wrong with me that that doesn’t bother me.
Believe me, society has done enough to drive home the plight of the woman, but just think about the baby for a moment that is dependent upon their mother’s protection and their life is snuffed out without a chance to take a breath, much less concern themselves with anything else, because they were killed. They weren’t given a choice what to do with their bodies on whether they could live or not. Talk about choices? That child has no choice but to die.
Believe me, society has done enough to drive home the plight of the woman, but just think about the baby for a moment that is dependent upon their mother’s protection and their life is snuffed out without a chance to take a breath, much less concern themselves with anything else, because they were killed. They weren’t given a choice what to do with their bodies on whether they could live or not. Talk about choices? That child has no choice but to die.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:15 pm to AwesomeSauce
quote:The latter, obviously. It was intended as a question everyone should ask.
Is your question self absorbed as in your world only, or reflected as does your decision have an effect on others.
quote:A woman having an unwanted child affects the rest of us. Her having an abortion does not.
abortion absolutely has effects that go beyond the woman, not limited to physical but also psychological and emotional.
quote:It's not a matter of science, it's a matter of the government's role in our lives. Is it government's job to maintain a safe and civil society, or is it government's job to police morality and punish "evil"?
Unless of course at bare minimum you believe that almost all doctors and scientists whom overwhelmingly agree that human life begins at conception are wrong?!
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:16 pm to Korkstand
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A woman having an unwanted child affects the rest of us.
A woman should learn what causes that and fix it.
Whores just want it both ways.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:18 pm to Palmetto98
Skipping and then coming back to read but I say it’s like this.
Any issue the left knows the right is just as passionate about from the other polar lens, it’s an excuse to play victim. To let your inner-anger from all sorts of things manifest in the name of something like abortion. Most women who are pro-choice? Deep down? That I know? They want this to be high on their list of priorities but it comes in 219th place behind showing social media a picture of her and husband taking a selfie before Top Gun.
Same women that helped enough to get Biden elected.
Any issue the left knows the right is just as passionate about from the other polar lens, it’s an excuse to play victim. To let your inner-anger from all sorts of things manifest in the name of something like abortion. Most women who are pro-choice? Deep down? That I know? They want this to be high on their list of priorities but it comes in 219th place behind showing social media a picture of her and husband taking a selfie before Top Gun.
Same women that helped enough to get Biden elected.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:19 pm to Korkstand
If she doesn’t want an unwanted child, then she can prevent it. Multiple ways to do this and abortion isn’t one of them.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:20 pm to tigafan4life
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then she can prevent it.
Evidently whatever third world Korky lives in, doesn't have those kind of things.
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