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re: Why have countries like South Africa not taken over more of Africa?

Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:48 pm to
Because China is already doing it
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:49 pm to
Well, there is this shite stain of an organization called the UN.

Basically, the old school “conquer other countries” mentality is only reserved for the US.

I personally don’t agree with it but hey there is this genieva convention BS that countries have to contend with.

I don’t understand what the issue is with drinking whiskey from the skull of your enemies
Posted by Tvilletiger
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:51 pm to
Sorry. I as I said I am not an expert on Africa.
I had a friend he died a few years ago that made I believe half a billion dollars in Africa. The company would sell/rent massive generators to places in Africa. Just seems like in 100 years those places will be controlled by the major world powers. They will have to go somewhere to get the resources.
Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:52 pm to
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Angola


I took a prop plane from the Congolese river down to Luanda and that country is absolutely gorgeous. It’s a disgrace what Luanda is. So many resources squandered.
Posted by ApexHunterNetcode
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:54 pm to
It's already happening. Primarily China through the use of lending
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:54 pm to
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I think there is going to be a major world political shift towards the continent. There are huge untapped natural resources. There are poor people that a powerful country could control?


China is already on top of this
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:55 pm to
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forgot how to farm and feed themselves, sent their currency into hyper inflation previously unseen by humans, before begging others to come in and teach them how to take care of themselves.


That is exactly what happened. Something like 5000% inflation, introduced sharecropping, the yankees invested heavily.

Aint a aecret that the civil war, along with yankee policy, crippled the south post civil war. frick, the Atlanta olympic opening games were based on this understanding.

Only difference is that there were a few good people who saw the good of the union and kept the south from being second rate taxpayers
This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 8:59 pm
Posted by redstick13
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:59 pm to
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took a prop plane from the Congolese river down to Luanda and that country is absolutely gorgeous. It’s a disgrace what Luanda is. So many resources squandered.



I once did a 5 day drive south of Luanda and a little bit into the interior of the country. It’s a very beautiful country that has so much wasted potential. Great beaches all along the coast.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:59 pm to
Why ????
Posted by Tvilletiger
PVB
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 8:59 pm to
So should the US pick a spot they like there and decide that will be their spot on Africa, China take theirs, and so on?
Seems like we should not just sit back and the government turmoil begs for a powerbroker.
Would it even be possible to control the populations?
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:01 pm to
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Aint a aecret that the civil war, along with yankee policy, crippled the south post civil war.
And at no point did they come close to anything resembling Zimbabwe.
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there were a few good people who saw the good of the union and kept the south from being second rate taxpayers
So it was union virtue that prevented the South from becoming Zimbabwe? Nah, try again.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:03 pm to
China seems to be in the colonizing game these days. Doing a lot in Africa.

Colonizing never seems to work out well for the colonizers. Good way to go bankrupt.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:07 pm to
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And at no point did they come close to anything resembling Zimbabwe.



Because they were part of the union.

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taxpayers
So it was union virtue that prevented the South from becoming Zimbabwe? Nah, try again


Not exclusively, but it definitely helped.

Great expansion and their value in farming helped
This post was edited on 10/31/23 at 9:08 pm
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:10 pm to
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So should the US pick a spot they like there and decide that will be their spot on Africa, China take theirs, and so on? Seems like we should not just sit back and the government turmoil begs for a powerbroker. Would it even be possible to control the populations?
The squeeze ain’t worth the juice.
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
10059 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:11 pm to
China is going to control the resources in Africa
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:13 pm to
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China is going to control the resources in Africa




They will. Or at least have a headstart.

Learned from the US how to do it.
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:15 pm to
It’s like a hot potato.

No one wants it.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65583 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:22 pm to
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Because they were part of the union.

Because they provided the vast majority of agriculture for The Union. Who needed who again?
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Not exclusively, but it definitely helped.

The South would have been just fine. It's kind of why they seceded. The North, on the other hand, would have had a few big problems on their hands.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
38734 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:27 pm to
They got too caught up in the bullshite that went on to see it was still a net gain. So instead of reworking it they tried to tear it downa and rebuild it with people who have substandard IQs
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 10/31/23 at 9:34 pm to
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So I think this is exactly why Putin is getting involved in Africa.


Putin is currently broke due to having $300B confiscated from his National banks and, if you haven't heard, a dead end war of his own choosing down in Ukraine.

Putin isn't getting involved in shite other than convincing his people a diet of strictly potatoes and mice will be good for their health.
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