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Why don’t police officers use handheld metal detectors
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:26 am
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:26 am
When making an arrest to avoid missing a gun or a knife during a search?
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Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:28 am to papasmurf1269
Because people keep a lot of metal shite on them...
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:28 am to papasmurf1269
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Why don’t police officers use handheld metal detectors
Already care enough shite.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:29 am to Pecker
quote:seems like it would be worth the trouble to avoid missing a hidden gun or a knife
Because people keep a lot of metal shite on them...
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:30 am to LSUTigerFan247
quote:keep it in the car and only get it when you need it.
Already care enough shite.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:33 am to papasmurf1269
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seems like it would be worth the trouble to avoid missing a hidden gun or a knife
Most of the people they search that have guns are honest about it
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:35 am to LSUTigerFan247
quote:I read a story a few months back about a police officer arresting a suspect and he missed a gun during the search and on the ride back to the station the guy pulled the gun out from his waistband and shot and killed the cop
Most of the people they search that have guns are honest about it
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:35 am to papasmurf1269
They are unreliable for detecting all weapons. There are ceramic knives and plastic guns out there these days. If police used wands to search for weapons, there would immediately be second guessed as to why they would ever be justified to lay hands on people to search them.
They are also expensive and require maintenance. Do you have any idea how much equipment a police officer is required to carry on them. It’s a lot.
They are also expensive and require maintenance. Do you have any idea how much equipment a police officer is required to carry on them. It’s a lot.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:36 am to papasmurf1269
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keep it in the car and only get it when you need it
Yes sir, can you not move I'm about to go get my device that detects the gun you have on your arse. I'll be right back
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:36 am to papasmurf1269
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seems like it would be worth the trouble to avoid missing a hidden gun or a knife
It would still require them to pat down the person.
Not a terrible idea but maybe an extra step that isn't very practical. It would also be another thing for them to have to carry.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:37 am to papasmurf1269
The fully equipped belt they wear already weighs 20 pounds.
A handheld detector would probably make it weigh 30.
Ain't nobody got time fo' dat.
A handheld detector would probably make it weigh 30.
Ain't nobody got time fo' dat.
This post was edited on 12/16/17 at 10:39 am
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:37 am to Pecker
Well, I believe that anything that helps a police officer do his job better and be safer is not necessarily a bad idea
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:39 am to papasmurf1269
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I read a story a few months back about a police officer arresting a suspect and he missed a gun during the search and on the ride back to the station the guy pulled the gun out from his waistband and shot and killed the cop
Happens quite frequently. I can't tell you how much crap we used to find in the backseats during vehicle inspections. This was a very rare, strange case though.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:42 am to LSUwag
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I read a story a few months back about a police officer arresting a suspect and he missed a gun during the search and on the ride back to the station the guy pulled the gun out from his waistband and shot and killed the cop
Something like this just happened a week ago south of st.louis, in Arnold.
Officer still fighting for his life.
quote:
O'Connor was shot by Chad Klahs, 29, of Arnold, on Dec. 5 while O'Connor was driving Klahs to police headquarters to be booked on a variety of charges, including a home burglary.
Officers seized a 9 mm handgun from Klahs, but he hid a .40-caliber handgun from them and shot O'Connor before fatally shooting himself inside O'Connor's police SUV, all while handcuffed. The shooting was on the parking lot of police headquarters, just yards from the sally port where O'Connor was heading with Klahs.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:45 am to papasmurf1269
So I am going to waste my time giving the OT an actual, honest answer.
Because the instances of a prisoner having a concealed weapon that is missed on the pat down are so rare (even though the consequences are high) that officers don’t consider it to be worth the effort. They arrest people every day and this never happens so they become complacent and that is what gets officers killed.
Consider this, years ago I was involved in a program with the US Border Patrol examining this very issue. In that case, they had van drivers who did nothing but transport detainees for their entire shift. Literally hundreds of detainees a night. A much, much more extreme example than your average police officer. We supplied them with handheld metal detectors to speed up scanning and processing the prisoners. A couple of weapons were actually identified and seized. The detectors were purchased and made available for use by the drivers. Six months later we checked back and found that they were no longer being used and had been put into a closet. Humans are creatures of habit and normalcy bias (an inherent wish to believe in things staying normal i.e. prisoners not having weapons) leads people to think the detectors were nothing but a pain in the arse.
Because the instances of a prisoner having a concealed weapon that is missed on the pat down are so rare (even though the consequences are high) that officers don’t consider it to be worth the effort. They arrest people every day and this never happens so they become complacent and that is what gets officers killed.
Consider this, years ago I was involved in a program with the US Border Patrol examining this very issue. In that case, they had van drivers who did nothing but transport detainees for their entire shift. Literally hundreds of detainees a night. A much, much more extreme example than your average police officer. We supplied them with handheld metal detectors to speed up scanning and processing the prisoners. A couple of weapons were actually identified and seized. The detectors were purchased and made available for use by the drivers. Six months later we checked back and found that they were no longer being used and had been put into a closet. Humans are creatures of habit and normalcy bias (an inherent wish to believe in things staying normal i.e. prisoners not having weapons) leads people to think the detectors were nothing but a pain in the arse.
Posted on 12/16/17 at 10:51 am to jbgleason
I appreciate the honest answer and point taken
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:07 am to papasmurf1269
A person can keep a single shot .22 pen gun in their crevice (vag, arse crack, fat fold...). Scanner would be useful. 
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:11 am to papasmurf1269
why do they shoot to kill rather than maim?
Why don't they use less lethal options?
Why don't they use less lethal options?
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:13 am to papasmurf1269
Because the fourth amendment exists
Posted on 12/16/17 at 11:14 am to Napoleon
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why do they shoot to kill rather than maim?
Why don't they use less lethal options?
Please be trolling
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