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re: Why does Mobile have fewer murders than Louisiana cities?

Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:54 am to
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
4121 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:54 am to
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I think city populations is probably accurate in this discussion


Of course it is the metro poster is dumb as a rock. NOPD and its woke judges/DA has no jurisdiction outside of Orleans and its 320,000 population.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86960 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 4:57 am to
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Govt Tide


Ol boy bringing some knowledge here

The growth trend of Fairhope/Daphne has been amazing to watch. Hurricanes? No problemo, we’ll just rebuild. Exorbitant real estate prices, no problemo.

Beautiful areas no doubt. I looked at moving there during Covid as I have several friends that relocated from Mobile proper there to get away from the riffraff of Mobile.
Posted by RoscoeSanCarlos
Member since Oct 2017
1727 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 5:21 am to
This according to my friend ChatGPT…

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The honor of having the first Mardi Gras celebration in the United States is often claimed by both Mobile, Alabama, and New Orleans, Louisiana, but the historical evidence favors Mobile as the birthplace of the tradition.

Mobile, Alabama
• Mobile, founded in 1702, held its first known Mardi Gras celebration in 1703, when it was still a French colony. • The first organized Mardi Gras society (or krewe), known as the Cowbellion de Rakin Society, was established in Mobile in 1830. This is recognized as the first formalized Mardi Gras organization in the U.S.
• Mobile still celebrates Mardi Gras annually and prides itself on being the oldest official Mardi Gras celebration in the country.

New Orleans, Louisiana
• New Orleans, founded in 1718, began celebrating Mardi Gras in the early 18th century.
• However, the first formalized Mardi Gras parade in New Orleans didn’t take place until 1857, when the Krewe of Comus was established.
• New Orleans has since become internationally synonymous with Mardi Gras, due to its elaborate parades, floats, and vibrant cultural influence.

Conclusion Mobile, Alabama, had the first Mardi Gras celebration in the U.S., but New Orleans popularized and expanded the tradition, creating the world-famous Mardi Gras festivities known today.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33125 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:10 am to
Give them time.....give them time.......
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
14387 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:13 am to
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Baton Rouge - 51% Black



I'm going to start referring to myself as a minority.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27695 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:16 am to
It’s not like those stats are wildly different. 20 per 100k is still a high murder rate.

If it was like 5 per 100k then I’d say something is different there.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
16998 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:25 am to
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Baton Rouge - 51% Black


Closer to 55% now

quote:

I'm going to start referring to myself as a minority.


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The 5 largest ethnic groups in Baton Rouge, LA are Black or African American (Non-Hispanic) (52.4%), White (Non-Hispanic) (35.8%), Asian (Non-Hispanic) (3.81%), Two+ (Non-Hispanic) (3.1%), and Other (Hispanic) (1.86%).


Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
8780 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:37 am to
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It’s not like those stats are wildly different. 20 per 100k is still a high murder rate.

If it was like 5 per 100k then I’d say something is different there.


Agree.

NYC murder rate is 5 per 100k and FOX news and many posters here carry on like it's the wild west.

Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
42116 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:42 am to
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Because they cook the books like most every city with a violence problem


Imagine how bad crime really is in some Louisiana cities knowing they have high rates despite cooking the books
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
40178 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 9:48 am to
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Because they cook the books like most every city with a violence problem


Then how bad is NOLA’s problem?
Posted by yaboidarrell
westbank
Member since Feb 2017
6153 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:01 am to
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Baton Rouge - 51% Black



Closer to 55% now


I'm going off of quickcensus.gov which usually has the latest demographic information. The Black population in BR has fallen slightly since 2022 (only growth has been Hispanics: 3.8% -> 6.5%).

LINK
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 10:06 am
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17179 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:02 am to
IDK.

Mobile is doing very well as a city. They are still far behind the bigger Louisiana cities in GDP, but I could see them one day becoming a real powerhouse on the gulf coast if they can improve their infrastructure and get lucky enough to avoid natural disasters.
Posted by wileyjones
Member since May 2014
2606 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:03 am to
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They are still far behind the bigger Louisiana cities in GDP
mobile just passed New Orleans in gdp
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17179 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:03 am to
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Mobile metro - 411,640 (as of July 2023)
Daphne/Fairhope/Foley - 253,507 (as of July 2023)


Oh wow...it's much smaller than I thought.

Baton Rouge's metro is pushing 900k these days. I think New Orleans is over 1 million despite losing Covington/northshore.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17179 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:04 am to
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mobile just passed New Orleans in gdp



That's not true, but I did read that it surpassed New Orleans in GDP growth rate.

It's far, far from surpassing it in total GDP.

Some area metros:
New Orleans metro $100.437 billion GDP
Baton Rouge metro $62.951 billion GDP
Jackson (MS) metro $34.043 billion GDP
Mobile metro $29.553 billion GDP

Mobile is doing well, but growth rate compared to New Orleans isn't a great metric. New Orleans is more static and is actually losing some parts of its metro area. I think Baton Rouge is also surpassing New Orleans in growth.

But neither Baton Rouge nor Mobile are anywhere near New Orleans metro in total GDP.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 10:12 am
Posted by yaboidarrell
westbank
Member since Feb 2017
6153 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:04 am to
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So Bama blacks are better than Louisiana blacks?
Considering some of them have Irish ancestry, yeah.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
57892 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:11 am to
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mobile just passed New Orleans in gdp
mobile’s gdp is like a quarter of New Orleans’

This board is absolutely delusional when it comes to LA vs MS and AL
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17179 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:13 am to
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mobile’s gdp is like a quarter of New Orleans’


Correct.

Mobile metro's GDP less than half of the GDP of the Baton Rouge metro.

It's also smaller than the Jackson, MS metro GDP - but it's much closer to that and probably could surpass that if they continue to grow.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 10:15 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25984 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:18 am to
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mobile just passed New Orleans in gdp


There must have been an article posted in the Mobile area that completely misinformed everyone because I've seen this posted before and it's wrong.

Mobile metro's GDP is not even comparable to the Baton Rouge area, much less the New Orleans area.


Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25984 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 10:23 am to
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Some area metros:
New Orleans metro $100.437 billion GDP
Baton Rouge metro $62.951 billion GDP
Jackson (MS) metro $34.043 billion GDP
Mobile metro $29.553 billion GDP


Worth noting that while Louisiana ranks near the bottom in almost every QOL index, it performs very well in GDP metrics. It outranks Nevada, Alabama, Utah, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Arkansas, and about a dozen others in economic output.

We are dying of poor health, our kids can barely read because our education sucks, we are stuck in traffic because we don't invest in ourselves......but our economic output is actually not bad at all for our size. The growth is concentrated in the southern part of the state though. North Louisiana has some major hurdles still around economic growth and quality of food.
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