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re: Why does Hollywood celebrate maklemore's anti med video
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:58 am to CAD703X
Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:58 am to CAD703X
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Wait so sometimes doctors prescribe meds that are good and sometimes they don't?
Sounds like the very definition of hypocrisy.
then you don't know the definition of hypocrisy
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Posted on 3/28/16 at 9:58 am to CAD703X
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“I don’t blame Kev or his mom freebasing while pregnant with him
Damn
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:00 am to Salmon
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then you don't know the definition of hypocrisy
you sure about that?
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the practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:01 am to CAD703X
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you sure about that?
yes absolutely
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:03 am to Salmon
you just said "oh its completely different when a doctor prescribes meds vs when he prescribes vaccines"
does the doctor don a "dr jeckyl/mr hyde" mask depending on the patient?
is he good sometimes and evil other times?
is his science SOLID when prescribing vaccines yet a FAKE SHILL for Merck when he prescribes ambien?
does the doctor don a "dr jeckyl/mr hyde" mask depending on the patient?
is he good sometimes and evil other times?
is his science SOLID when prescribing vaccines yet a FAKE SHILL for Merck when he prescribes ambien?
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 10:04 am
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:05 am to CAD703X
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In the second verse, he takes the macro approach: “I don’t blame Kev or his mom freebasing while pregnant with him/ I blame the pharmacy companies
I made a third verse
Don't care anymore 'bout personal responsibility,
Everyone's equal regardless of ability,
And if your own actions cause brain death or senility,
Then it's probably the republicans fault,
You're in a vault
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:06 am to CAD703X
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you just said "oh its completely different when a doctor prescribes meds vs when he prescribes vaccines"
I didn't say this at all
do you not agree that we, as a society, are over prescribed? all these kids on ADD pills and adderall? good?
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:09 am to CAD703X
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prescribes vaccines
What vaccines do individual doctors "prescribe"?
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:12 am to CAD703X
He's not talking about anti-vaccine. He's talking about doctors over and misprescribing which is a real issue.
Are you that bad at comprehension?
Are you that bad at comprehension?
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:12 am to stout
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Are you that bad at comprehension?
yes
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:13 am to CAD703X
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is his science SOLID when prescribing vaccines yet a FAKE SHILL for Merck when he prescribes ambien?
So the issue with anti-vacc is based around herd immunity. Even a small fragment of the population breaking down this immunity can jeopardize vaccinated people.
Over prescribing painkillers, or anti-depression medication, or antibiotics (some of which are very profitable life-long prescriptions) is a totally separate issue. That is driven by people's desires for an easy way to avoid bad parts of life.
My wife has chronic pain, and while she keeps a prescription for bad days, we have put a ton of effort into no pharmaceutical ways to manage pain including strength training, diet, and massages. That has reduced her usage of pain medication and made her much happier overall. Yet many people would prefer to just take a Vicodin daily and avoid the difficult parts. (For clarity my wife never had an abuse issue, but did use medication on a regular basis to manage chronic pain. We have essentially eliminated her use of prescription medication and dropped her usage of OTC to weekly or every other week usage. I did not want to make her sound like a druggie.)
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:16 am to Salmon
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do you not agree that we, as a society, are over prescribed? all these kids on ADD pills and adderall? good?
More a function of defensive medicine and "educated" patients/parents than physicians being financially influenced by big pharma. At least in this century.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:17 am to dbeck
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What vaccines do individual doctors "prescribe"?
Gardisil is a good example of vaccine administration being influenced by other "factors" besides science.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:17 am to MSMHater
oh I'm not singling out "big pharma" or anything like that
it is absolutely the parents fault as well for asking for a prescription and giving fricking 5 year olds ADD pills
it falls on everyone from "big pharma" to the doctors and to the parents
it is absolutely the parents fault as well for asking for a prescription and giving fricking 5 year olds ADD pills
it falls on everyone from "big pharma" to the doctors and to the parents
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:25 am to Salmon
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do you not agree that we, as a society, are over vaqccinated?
changing your words around, answer that question.
do you think 100% of vaccines are absolutely necessary and any side effects outweigh the good they're doing for society?
but you don't feel the same about other meds?
what makes the 2 things different? aren't we told these drugs have been tested and re-tested and we should have ABSOLUTE trust in the FDA both are equally necessary and supported by a billion scientific studies?
how do you accept one med and not the other? are you saying there is varying degrees of scientific truth depending on the drug?
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:27 am to CorporateTiger
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So the issue with anti-vacc is based around herd immunity. Even a small fragment of the population breaking down this immunity can jeopardize vaccinated people.
Over prescribing painkillers, or anti-depression medication, or antibiotics (some of which are very profitable life-long prescriptions) is a totally separate issue.
whats the difference??????
just because one drug is labelled as a 'vaccine' its superior or its scientific 'truth' is unimpeachable?
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:30 am to CAD703X
Are you being intentionally obtuse? Herd immunity, look it up. Furthermore there is no issue behind the science of prescribing over-prescribed meds. No one is questioning the science that Cipro kills bacteria, or Vicodin limits pain, or Ambien helps you sleep. The issue is implementation and practice rather than science.
Prescriptions for painkillers and anti-depressants, and sleeping drugs have no connection to herd immunity.
Prescriptions for painkillers and anti-depressants, and sleeping drugs have no connection to herd immunity.
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:32 am to CorporateTiger
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Prescriptions for painkillers and anti-depressants, and sleeping drugs have no connection to herd immunity.
other than the fact they are both prescribed by doctors based on so-called "Scientfic facts".
note i'm not saying all vaccines are bad but they are shoved down our throats as if they come from the Hand of God himself.
my officemate got a flu vaccine at the beginning of the season..and caught the flu..not just the flu..but the VERY STRAIN of the flu this vaccine supposedly warded against.
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 10:34 am
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:33 am to CAD703X
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whats the difference??????
The impact.
If 10 out of every hundred parents refuse vaccines, that could have devastating health effects on the community as a whole.
If 10 out of every 100 parents refuse adderal for their child, what impact does that have, and on whom?
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just because one drug is labelled as a 'vaccine' its superior or its scientific 'truth' is unimpeachable?
Well, yes. The efficacy of particular drugs varies. The efficacy for the measles vaccine on Measles is higher than the efficacy of adderal of on ADD diagnosis. And the threshold some physicians expect that efficacy to achieve can vary as well. One phsycian may totally buy the most recent report on drug X, while another still feels previous research is more impactful.
This post was edited on 3/28/16 at 10:35 am
Posted on 3/28/16 at 10:35 am to MSMHater
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Well, yes. The efficacy of particular drugs varies. The efficacy for the measles vaccine on Measles is higher than the efficacy of adderal of on ADD diagnosis. And the threshold some physicians expect that efficacy to achieve can vary as well. One phsycian may totally buy the most recent report on drug X, while another still feels previous research is more impactful.
you're missing my point. not saying all vaccines are bad. this isnt 1/0 discussion.
my position is that all meds are subject to the same fallibility and just because something is labelled a 'vaccine' makes it in no worse or better than any other drug that has been approved by the FDA.
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