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re: Why do “squatter’s rights” exist? It’s beyond messed up.

Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:42 am to
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:42 am to
Cut the utilities.

They will move on when the water stops and the temp is hotter inside than out.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53294 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:43 am to
There's a Craiglist scam where people will pose as landlords and rent out a house they don't own to somebody. As a result, the scammed tenet ends up being a squatter.

There's a story in Dayton right now of a guy who can't complete the sale of his house because squatters took it over while it sat vacant.

I guess one of the easiest ways to try to prevent this is to have an alarm system or some other type of home monitoring.
Posted by LakeviewYakker
NOLA
Member since Aug 2014
397 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:44 am to
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How in the world is this not an immediate arrest for criminal breaking and entering, trespassing, and theft?

Definitely one of the stupidest laws I’ve ever heard of


Agree, but apparently all the squatter has to say is they were invited in. In the article it says they were invited in by the previous tenant. Once that happens, it's a civil matter and the authorities have to treat the squatters as residents of the house. The homeowner then have to go through a arduous legal process to formerly evict the tenants.
Apparently in Colorado City there are "professional" squatters that just bounce from house to house.
Sucks for the homeowner, because you know the squatters are gonna loot everything they can from the place and leave it trashed.
Disgusting.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:44 am to
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The laws are bad but so are the police’s decisions. When the property owner tells you this person was not invited and is not allowed in the property, you don’t just throw up your hands and say “what can I do?” simply because the squatter makes up a bullshite story that they were “invited in” by someone else. If an officer reasonably believes the owner is telling the truth and the squatter is lying, then the officer should order the squatter out immediately or face arrest.


That would require the police to actually protect and serve the public.

The courts have said they have no legal requirement to do so.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:47 am to
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Agree, but apparently all the squatter has to say is they were invited in. In the article it says they were invited in by the previous tenant.


Same thing can happen with your car if you "loan" it to someone.




Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18019 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:47 am to
This is exactly why I set booby traps in all of my unoccupied rental properties
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27693 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:49 am to
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You're not leaving for a Carnival cruise and having to evict people who broke into your house
Novins, York, & Jacobus, attorneys at law: https://nyplaw.com/get-illegal-squatters-house/

You return home after a two-month-long vacation only to find strangers squatting in your house. The problem is that these people have lived in your home since the time you left and even receive mail there. To regain possession of your property, you have few options, each usually taking time to process. Now the battle begins to get the squatters out of your home.

Depending on the situation, you might be able to talk to the squatters and, together, come up with an amicable solution for them to leave. During that conversation, you will have a better idea as to their demeanor and whether they will accommodate your request or fight to stay. If the squatters make it clear that they plan to live in your house until forced out, you need to contact your local law enforcement agency and an attorney who specializes in squatting cases.

Squatters’ Rights

Keep in mind that squatter laws vary from one state and city to another. For instance, some places recognize squatters as “lawful residents.” As the homeowner, that seems completely unfair, but it is the law. If you have squatters, police presence may be enough to encourage them to leave. However, most people have to hire an attorney to assist with the legal eviction process. Unfortunately, having someone evicted takes weeks, if not months.

Although you might feel tempted to break into your home and physically force the squatters out, shut off all utilities, change the locks, or take some other action, be careful. Because of squatters’ rights, you could end up on the wrong side of the law. Although frustrating, if the squatters refuse to move out of your house, your only recourse is to take the legal route.

Taking Appropriate Action

Immediately after learning the squatters plan to stay in your home, start the legal eviction process. Within several weeks or months, the court will hand down an order for them to vacate. To enforce the court’s order, a deputy will serve an eviction notice to the squatters advising they have x-number of days to move. If they refuse, the police will arrest and charge them with a criminal offense.

There are few things more aggravating and frightening than coming home to find complete strangers taking up residence in your home. Sadly, this happens far more often than most people realize. So how can you protect yourself and your home? If you plan to take an extended vacation or go out of state for personal or business reasons longer than a few weeks, hire someone to house sit.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53294 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:51 am to
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You return home after a two-month-long vacation only to find strangers squatting in your house.


If I'm going on vacation for 2 months, I'm doing anything I can to have someone check on the house occasionally to make sure nothing weird is happening.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
83559 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:54 am to
That's the equivalent of

"You, a responsible citizen with an unblemished record, are driving along the interstate when you're sideswiped by a drunk and high illegal immigrant driving a semi without a license, and it kills your whole family. What are you to do? Who can you call?"

In other words, it's a pretty unrealistic scenario presented by a lawyer that departs quite significantly from how things really happen in all but the rarest of circumstances.

Squatting is not going to be an issue for 99.999% of individual homeowners who reside at their home.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
130332 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:55 am to
Couldn’t you just go and squat in your own house with some
And make it so unpleasant for the squatters that they leave pronto?
This post was edited on 8/21/19 at 12:05 pm
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
26825 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 11:55 am to
Is there any merit to going the juvenile route? Like if they refuse to leave can I just set up a drum set and bash the shite out of it all day or when they’re trying to sleep?


Also, what’s the process if the squatters leave the apartment even for a short time? Like if I go back into my apartment and let’s say they’re gone for an hour to do whatever, can I just lock the door behind them and not let them back in?
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
14324 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:02 pm to
I would take matters into my owns hands. It’s quite simple. I would get them the frick out of my house using force.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
130332 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:03 pm to
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I would take matters into my owns hands. It’s quite simple. I would get them the frick out of my house using force.


Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
27857 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:05 pm to
This...this is something that would drive me to violence.

Squatters are amongst the lowest forms of human. I would annhialate one of those frickers. Claim it was a home invasion and I was acting in self defense.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27772 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:05 pm to
Go in the house. Wreck their shite. Take the assault charge all the way up to the Supreme Court. This is the only way to stop this non-sense.
Posted by fatboydave
Fat boy land
Member since Aug 2004
17979 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:08 pm to
Every time I see "squatters rights" I think of someone making mud.
Posted by LegendaryOutlaw
Member since Apr 2019
285 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:10 pm to
I don’t understand. Why not just walk in, tell them to leave, and then stand your ground and shoot them all?
Posted by LSU Alumnus
Member since Nov 2017
1831 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:11 pm to
FWIW, if I'm ever on your jury, I totally believe that one of them attacked you with a thing.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
55539 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:14 pm to
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hard to prove how long squatters have been living in your vacation home if you kill them first


It's hard to prove they were even there if you do a good job at cleaning up.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37599 posts
Posted on 8/21/19 at 12:15 pm to
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when you're sideswiped by a drunk and high illegal immigrant driving a semi without a license, and it kills your whole family. What are you to do? Who can you call?"


Apparently I'm dead in this scenario so I guess I do nothing.
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