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re: Why do some gas pumps cut you off at a preset $ amount when you pay at the pump?

Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:38 am to
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51903 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Well why doesn't every store limit purchases? Your explanation doesn't make any sense.


It's makes complete sense if you sit and think about it.

Any other store can authorize the actual purchase total.

They know when you swipe if the money is there.


Gas stations pre swipe.

The analogy if other stores would do this is if you would swipe upon walking in the door, you can load up your cart, and the store would just have to hope your card can cover all purchases.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:42 am to
It all depends on the gas station

Racetrac stops at 99 for some reason


Some are 75


I don't know what the texaco at my house is but I know I've been close to 125 without stopping
Posted by SaltyMcKracker
Member since Sep 2011
2759 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:42 am to
It is up to the card issuer to set the cutoff amount. Some of my cards will cutoff at $100 and others $125. I have to keep 4 different cards to get fuel with b/c if you stand there and keep swiping one over and over they will cut it off.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
36174 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:44 am to
Your bank will cut you off.

Daily limit, current balance, etc
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 9:53 am to
quote:

It is up to the card issuer to set the cutoff amount.


I'm pretty sure it's up to the gas station


And I've used mine back to back and never had a problem getting a 2nd authorization
Posted by LSU Rules07
Member since Oct 2007
1253 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:01 am to
this is to eliminate fraud for the gas station and the issuing bank. Basically in order to issue or accept visa/mastercard you have to abide by their rules. their rules make the bank and or the gas station responsible to fraudulent transactions. so in order to prevent a massive loss they put limits on purchases. this is why you can only get so much from an atm in one day.
Posted by 82fumanchu
Saskatchewan
Member since Jan 2014
1969 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Also, you can't just put your card back in and finish filling up because apparently it's blocked for an amount of time?


After the cut off I just put my card back in every time. You can't wait 15-20 seconds?
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:03 am to
the question has pretty much been answered already


its because they don't know how much you plan to spend so they set a maximum amount and authorize for that to make sure your credit limit can cover it


the preauthorization process may differ between amex, visa, mc, etc.....but based on their rules, the gas station sets an amount they feel will satisfy most customers needs by the time they are done pumping
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:05 am to
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Why do the set these things to stop? Gas stations don't like money?


I didn't know this even happened.
Posted by One Story House
Member since Feb 2009
1549 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:05 am to
I have a 36 gallon tank. I walk in and pre-pay $130 and I'm set. If I don't pump $130, the amount goes back on my card. Receipt with refund is printed at the pump at most stores. Some places make you go back in for the refund.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:06 am to
I have never experienced it because I use a credit card or amex so I get reward points.

But, my son has told me this has happened to him on multiple occasions BUT he always uses his debit card. And he usually has a low balance.

Did the OP use a debit card?
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7612 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Also, you can't just put your card back in and finish filling up because apparently it's blocked for an amount of time?


After the cut off I just put my card back in every time. You can't wait 15-20 seconds?

Or just use a different card. Why try and use the same card if you know it's going to be blocked for x amount of time?
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:08 am to
most places have the maximum set so high that most cars won't ever see it


like the OP, i have a 36 gallon gas tank, so i'm over 100 dollars quite regularly


i typically go to the same texaco near my house which much set the limit at 125 or higher, because i've spent pretty close to that with no shutoffs
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12737 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:25 am to
I think the only time I ran into this was on a road trip with the extended family. Dad swiped his card, filled up, then drove off and I pulled up and pumped mine. It cut off at $100 and I had only put in about $40 into my truck. I knew it would hold another 5-6 gallons so I just swiped my card and filled it up.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28707 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:27 am to
quote:

this is to eliminate fraud for the gas station and the issuing bank. Basically in order to issue or accept visa/mastercard you have to abide by their rules. their rules make the bank and or the gas station responsible to fraudulent transactions. so in order to prevent a massive loss they put limits on purchases.

This is not right, at all. The correct answer has been posted a couple times already, but I guess it needs more explaining.

When you swipe your card, the station places a hold on your card just to make sure you have the money. Problem is, they can't just ask "how much can I charge?" and set the pump to cut off at that amount. Instead, they have to ask the card issuer if they can charge $X. It's up to the station how much they set $X to. Set it too high (say, $200), and a lot of cards will get declined and you miss out on sales. Set it too low, and customers get frustrated when the pump cuts off too soon. They have to find the right balance.
Posted by LSUfootball222
Member since Oct 2009
1149 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:44 am to
Walmart gas stations do this
Posted by BayouBandit24
Member since Aug 2010
16572 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:46 am to
quote:

PostWell why doesn't every store limit purchases? Your explanation doesn't make any sense.


If you ever notice it's normally places like circle k in shitty areas. I don't think I've ever experienced this at an Exxon or shell
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:49 am to
I hate when I pay at the pump, for the sake of convenience, then the receipt printer is out of paper and you have to go inside and wait in line to get a receipt.
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
5613 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 10:52 am to
Probably has something to do with the guy a few years ago that got a 60 billion dollar credit card bill for gas he pumped.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 7/15/14 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Problem is, they can't just ask "how much can I charge?"



seems like they could do this pretty easily if they wanted to


they all have a screen and keypad, so why not ask what amount you would like?

seems like it would work just fine
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