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re: Why do people treat former drug addicts/felons like they are heroes?

Posted on 1/29/22 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 1/29/22 at 9:49 pm to
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I’ve built a great life while drinking heavily.


Won’t be so great when your liver shits the bed and your abdomen swells up with gallons of fluid essentially disabling you. I hope this never happens to you.
Posted by andwesway
Zachary, LA
Member since Jun 2016
2803 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:00 pm to
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Won’t be so great when your liver shits the bed and your abdomen swells up with gallons of fluid essentially disabling you. I hope this never happens to you.


I second that. Having fluid drained from your stomach cavity once a week because your liver gave out isn't very fun. I do not miss that shite at all.
Posted by Irregardless
Member since Nov 2021
2237 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:03 pm to
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Ex alcoholic here and I kind of agree with you. Its a pretty hard thing to overcome but nothing to celebrate.


I agree somewhat. It’s something to celebrate everyday, in your own mind and spirit. My experience has shown that people that count and broadcast days sober are more likely to hit bottom again.

I have been through the program and had lots of “sober time” that was miserable. Despite the teachings of the most accepted “cure” for addiction, the fact is most people can find a balance of moderation.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:13 pm to
I know addicts in recovery that are more aware of who they are and less of an a-hole than you are. You think you're better than an addict in recovery. You're not.
Posted by Irregardless
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:26 pm to
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I know addicts in recovery that are more aware of who they are and less of an a-hole than you are.


fricking this. Going through it clearly makes you more empathetic, sympathetic, understanding, and accepting of the shortcomings of others. Like Horse being a douche that is probably mad all the time.

All you angry people probably identify as Christian. Jesus disagreed with all you condemnation and judging.
Posted by they call me horse
Member since Jan 2022
362 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:33 pm to
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I know addicts in recovery that are more aware of who they are and less of an a-hole than you are.


fricking this. Going through it clearly makes you more empathetic, sympathetic, understanding, and accepting of the shortcomings of others. Like Horse being a douche that is probably mad all the time.

All you angry people probably identify as Christian. Jesus disagreed with all you condemnation and judging.


If you're a drug addict that has cleaned up their act then of course it is a good thing.
It means that you won't be breaking into my car/home or mugging my grandmother to feed your habit.

Do something productive like speaking to children/teens about the horrors of addiction so they won't make the same stupid decisions that you made.

Bragging about no longer doing something that you shouldn't have been doing in the first place is kinda weird.

People that heap absurd amounts of praise on people for no longer being criminals and addicts is also weird.

Posted by Irregardless
Member since Nov 2021
2237 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:36 pm to
You do a lot of things you shouldn’t. The fact that you get upset over this says something about you.

I hope you find peace.
Posted by they call me horse
Member since Jan 2022
362 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:40 pm to
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You do a lot of things you shouldn’t. The fact that you get upset over this says something about you.

I hope you find peace.


Upset? No.

Just pointing out the stupidity of the over the top praise for someone simply no longer doing something that they shouldn't have been doing in the first place.

Posted by Irregardless
Member since Nov 2021
2237 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:42 pm to
It must have been weighing on you to start a thread about it.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12820 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:45 pm to
It depends on the type of addict and the stigma.

Nobody is celebrating gambling addicts who stopped showing up at a casino 5 times a week.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18812 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:48 pm to
I agree. No need to celebrate people for overcoming a self-inflicted adversity.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:51 pm to
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It depends on the type of addict and the stigma.

I don't think it should. Any addict that recognizes their addiction and takes action to deal with it should be supported. Not glorified. Supported. They've taken steps to deal with their addiction. That kind of honesty and self awareness to admit what they are should be supported if you are a friend of that person.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120266 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:52 pm to
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If you're a drug addict that has cleaned up their act then of course it is a good thing.
It means that you won't be breaking into my car/home or mugging my grandmother to feed your habit.

Do something productive like speaking to children/teens about the horrors of addiction so they won't make the same stupid decisions that you made.

Bragging about no longer doing something that you shouldn't have been doing in the first place is kinda weird.

People that heap absurd amounts of praise on people for no longer being criminals and addicts is also weird.






So you are judging everyone based on the actions of a few? The few people I know who has successfully got clean do not go around bragging about it.

You are either trolling or you are just a dumbass who thinks everyone within a group of people act the same based on one person's behavior.

Either way, its not your goddamn business how other people treat former addicts. And are you saying all addicts are felons? I don't understand the addicts/felons part.

Do people treat former felons like heros? Can you give a specific example of this?

Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120266 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:54 pm to
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Everyone shits on SS here daily fwiw


It has nothing to do with him being a former addict and everything to do with him being a complete dick.
Posted by they call me horse
Member since Jan 2022
362 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:57 pm to
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Everyone shits on SS here daily fwiw


I'm new here, what's SS?
Posted by Irregardless
Member since Nov 2021
2237 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 10:59 pm to
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No need to celebrate people for overcoming a self-inflicted adversity.


I agree with the “No need to celebrate.” I disagree with the “self-inflicted.” As stated several times, countless opioid addicts started on highly addictive pain meds prescribed by their doctors. Countless amphetamine addicts stated on prescribed amphetamines like Aderall that half the people on this board are on. And alcoholics started on drinking beers with their friends when they were young.

Nobody just wakes up and decides to put a needle in a vein.
Posted by they call me horse
Member since Jan 2022
362 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 11:00 pm to
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So you are judging everyone based on the actions of a few? The few people I know who has successfully got clean do not go around bragging about it.

You are either trolling or you are just a dumbass who thinks everyone within a group of people act the same based on one person's behavior.

Either way, its not your goddamn business how other people treat former addicts. And are you saying all addicts are felons? I don't understand the addicts/felons part.

Do people treat former felons like heros? Can you give a specific example of this?



If someone breaks into your vehicle, burglarizes your home, mugs your grandma etc it was usually someone doing so to feed their drug habit.

Posted by Irregardless
Member since Nov 2021
2237 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 11:01 pm to
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I'm new here, what's SS?


I’m new here too. They need to run a post check on your tired arse.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120266 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 11:02 pm to
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And tax payer dollars are used to as an incentive for companies to hire these people.
So companies actually have a financial interest in hiring the former drug addict/felon over the life long law abiding citizen.



If you are not trolling and being serious you are a complete dumbass.

I know someone who became an addict in HS. He is an intelligent person, but he dropped out of HS and fought it for about 3.5 years. He got in legal trouble, etc. Went to rehab and a big part of him getting and staying clean his first time is because he wanted to.

He went to community college, transferred to a 4 year institution then went to law school and graduated in the top of his class.

Does a law abiding citizen deserve something more than he does?

Or did a former addict get a job you thought you were the better hire for? If that's the case, you probably are just an idiot.
Posted by Irregardless
Member since Nov 2021
2237 posts
Posted on 1/29/22 at 11:03 pm to
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If someone breaks into your vehicle, burglarizes your home, mugs your grandma etc it was usually someone doing so to feed their drug habit.


How old are you? Do you drink? Do you go to church?
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