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re: Why aren’t churches taxed?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 3:50 pm to IamPatman
Posted on 5/23/25 at 3:50 pm to IamPatman
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Very few actually, to be "militant" would require violence. We atheists are working to eradicate the scourge of dogmatic theology with intellectual reasoning, however we would consider it a huge win if you quit feeling the need to interject your Gods and religions into our government and public policies. But you just don't seem to be capable of doing that...so we continue to fight for a reality guided society.and the numbers slowly continue to progress in the right direction.
Good lord that’s a lot of fart sniffing
Well anyway, hope you’re enjoying the country built in Christian values.
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Posted on 5/23/25 at 3:51 pm to UFFan
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I think that churches should be taxed, regardless of whether they preach politics.
What should be taxed? Donations from individuals? That's what you want to tax?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 3:57 pm to UFFan
Cause Pastor _________ insert name needs his private jets and expensive cars. Taxing churches would make that more difficult to achieve. Duh.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 4:25 pm to OweO
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What non-profits pay tax?
Don’t know, that’s why there was a question mark at the end of my sentence. I didn’t have time to consult my tax attorney…..
Posted on 5/23/25 at 4:29 pm to Tdogg78
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Why should NGOs and churches get a free pass on taxes and then preach at us what we should do.
You sound like someone who isn't necessarily preached at, first of all.
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If it can not stand like a business, it should close.
So everything in existence has to be a money making enterprise? If you don't generate revenue for the government you are worthless and should close? Do you understand what that philosophical perspective means?
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Not taxing is picking winners and losers.
Not taxing Non-Profits is allowing them freedom to operate and figure out how to do good WITHOUT worrying about "revenue generation" and what that means financially across the board.
Now, do many many 5013cs ignore that? For sure. But bath water and all that.
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Separation of church and state means no sponsored religion. Not that religion gets a pass on taxes.
No it means government should not have power over religion and that religion should not have power over the government. Taxing religions allows and undue amount of power in one direction.
It also clearly opens the door to a Theocracy. Then churches can pay taxes, preach at you what to do, and then legally force you to do those things.
This post was edited on 5/23/25 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 5/23/25 at 5:31 pm to DeathValley85
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Well anyway, hope you’re enjoying the country built in Christian values.
Well our country was built on a freedom of and from religion and was specifically not founded to be a "christian" nation, but which values would you be speaking of sir?
The incest? The rape? The incestuous rape?
The value that rape is okay if you pay the girls father and then marry her?
The value that slaves must submit to their masters?
The value that if a woman has sex before marriage she should be killed?
The value that children should be murdered if they do not believe?
The murderous slaughter of those that believe differently?
Moral values definitely DO NOT come from christianity sir
Posted on 5/23/25 at 5:33 pm to MikeAV8s
quote:lol
non profit
Posted on 5/23/25 at 5:41 pm to IamPatman
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IamPatman
What's with atheists' constant need to derail a thread?
Posted on 5/23/25 at 5:50 pm to UFFan
Mormon Church Land Acres
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, commonly known as the Mormon church, owns more than 2.3 million acres of private land in the US, which accounts for approximately 1 in every 550 acres.
This makes them the second-largest landowner in the country.
In addition to this, the church owns significant amounts of land in specific states. For example, in Montana, the Mormon church owns 255,000 acres
, and in Nebraska, it owns about 370,000 acres of agricultural land.
The church also owns nearly 300,000 acres of land, 44,000 head of beef cattle, and maintains 90 rancher families on their ranch.
In Florida, the church owns approximately 672,834 acres of land, which accounts for almost 2% of the state’s land mass.
AI-generated answer. Please verify critical facts.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, commonly known as the Mormon church, owns more than 2.3 million acres of private land in the US, which accounts for approximately 1 in every 550 acres.
This makes them the second-largest landowner in the country.
In addition to this, the church owns significant amounts of land in specific states. For example, in Montana, the Mormon church owns 255,000 acres
, and in Nebraska, it owns about 370,000 acres of agricultural land.
The church also owns nearly 300,000 acres of land, 44,000 head of beef cattle, and maintains 90 rancher families on their ranch.
In Florida, the church owns approximately 672,834 acres of land, which accounts for almost 2% of the state’s land mass.
AI-generated answer. Please verify critical facts.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 5:50 pm to TigerBalsagna
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What's with atheists' constant need to derail a thread?
The thread topic is taxation of churches...my posts are about how they are built on a fallacy. Very on point it seems to me sir, whether you like the point or not.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 6:08 pm to ImaObserver
1. Roman Catholic Church: 70 million hectares
The largest landowner in the world is not a major oil magnate or a real estate investor. No, it's the Roman Catholic Church. According to lovemoney.com, the church owns more than 70 million hectares. An area that is larger than France. It is not just about agricultural land, but also about land in the most expensive locations in London, Paris and New York.
(Web search generated info.) 70 million hectares converts to 172,973,767 acres or about 173 million acres.
The largest landowner in the world is not a major oil magnate or a real estate investor. No, it's the Roman Catholic Church. According to lovemoney.com, the church owns more than 70 million hectares. An area that is larger than France. It is not just about agricultural land, but also about land in the most expensive locations in London, Paris and New York.
(Web search generated info.) 70 million hectares converts to 172,973,767 acres or about 173 million acres.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 6:10 pm to ImaObserver
quote:it’s ok it’ll all be sold soon to cover lawsuits
Roman Catholic Church: 70 million hectares The largest landowner in the world is not a major oil magnate or a real estate investor
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:53 pm to TigerBalsagna
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What's with atheists' constant need to derail a thread?
They have to spread the good word of atheism
Posted on 5/23/25 at 9:58 pm to UFFan
Because taxation is control. The moment you allow the federal government to start taxing churches, you open the door to the federal government controlling religion.
Posted on 5/23/25 at 10:01 pm to IamPatman
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IamPatman
Have you ever actually read anything other than some idiot liberal professor wrote?
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