re: Why are young people too lazy/worthless to return to the office ?

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Boomers just want to go back to the office so they can get away from their families.

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It never ceases to amaze me how a significant portion of the OT thinks Boomers are in their 30s-50s.

Boomers are by and large empty-nesters. So it would really just be getting away from the wife in most instances.

But point taken.

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Get your arse back to the office by this day or you're fired. Pretty simple.

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I have 2 days work from home per week. I already hate my job, but this is one of the few things nice about it.

If my company got rid of work from home, I would quit the next day. As would many, many others. If you want to hire good workers, you need more than just a high salary, you need competitive benefits. Working from home has become a benefit.

What would you do if, tomorrow, your company took away a week’s worth of vacation from everyone? You’d probably throw a fit.

To answer the original question, the youth today hate their jobs because companies are still operating in a 20th century mindset. I’m an engineer. With all the software we have now, I can get 40 hours of week done in 20. Some weeks this may not be true, but for most, it is.

Excelling at your job does nothing—raises come only by annual profit margins and promotions are given to those who have “experience in management” or those who “networked” to be there. We aren’t given pensions, or stock in the company, so the only way to get a 10-20% raise is to work somewhere for 4-6 years and then apply to another company. The work environment for most non-governmental companies is like this.

The Millennials and Zoomers have gotten absolutely fricked by the boomers and the GenX. Unless you have wealthy parents, most of us can barely afford the basics of life, and what we do have, we don’t own, including our own jobs. Unlike the old generations, we know we are wage slaves and we hate it. Most work in silent protest, called “quiet quitting,” and for good reason.

If you want to know who’s to blame, go look in a mirror.

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i have been remote since 2 years before Covid. may company and managers know i'm responsible and get my work done and then so since then, and allow me to stay remote. they have instituted 1 day a month for folks to go back in - for me they let it be optional.

but then again I am a responsible adult and give them no reason

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Do you believe this is the norm with remote work? I think my only problem with remote work is that for most people they dont get as much done as they would in an office setting. There will always be outliers that contribute just as much from as remote setting as they would in person, but I just dont believe that's the case for the majority of people.

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Curious what industry you work in

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Music, duh.

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that for most people they dont get as much done as they would in an office setting

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Based on what? Postings on TD slow down between 8 and 5 for all the office drones?

I blame all of the fluoride in their diets. It’s turning young people into opposite sex, entitled, gay and lazy.

Because contrary to what your stubborn boomer brain can comprehend

There is very little reason to actually go to “an office”

- job starts at 9am
- wake up at 7am
- leave house at 8am
- sit in traffic to drive to office for an hour, wasting an hour of your life, an hour of wear and tear on your car, and fuel
- get to office
- sit at computer to do work, send emails, do tasks, send emails
- eat lunch in break room out of a Tupperware bin
- return to tasks for another five hours
- drive an hour back home
- get home tired and exhausted and unable to have time to get groceries, go to gym, cook food

Nobody has a wife waiting for them at home with a steak dinner. Nobody has a wife at home taking care of the children. Your generation fostered feminism that destroyed the traditional household.

So the entire old song and dance of the 9-5 is dead, the whole support structure is gone, yet you still think that mind numbing ritual should not only remain, but to dismiss it is a mark of laziness or inferiority.

We have the internet. I can Teams meet with my entire team anywhere around the world. Do that with customers. Manufacturing team. Marketing team. Sales team. I can actually work on a spreadsheet with my entire team at the same time whether I am in Hawaii, Tokyo, my office, my mom’s basement.

The office doesn’t need to exist. In fact it is an expense on the company.

The world has passed the office by and made it obsolete.

And it has done the same to you, boomer.

I simply can not wait for you all to die so we can rid the world of your unbearably smug attitude.

YOU enjoyed the greatest economic environment EVER. And you stole it all and refused to pass it down to your children.

YOU are an evolutionary outlier. Never has an ancestor looked with such disdain and malice upon its progeny. And it will be nothing but a blessing to us all once you are in the dirt.

I’ve been working from home since 2011

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It never ceases to amaze me how a significant portion of the OT thinks Boomers are in their 30s-50s.

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It never ceases to amaze me that boomers think that the slang “boomers” is referring to only people in the baby boomer generation. In internet “talk” a “boomer” is just someone perceived by the author as “old”, and it’s usually referring to a mindset over an actual age