re: Why are people of history being held to today standards?

Damn I guess we should tear down all of the ruins and statues from the Roman Empire in that case.

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In this country specifically, slavery was a pretty contested institution since its inception.

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And 600,000 mostly white men died 160 years ago in order for it to be eradicated. That’s what we do, we build off the past. We improve. We move on but not forget what it took to get here.

You have to excuse humans for not being perfect at the dawn of civilization. Most of human history is fricking brutal, beyond our ability to comprehend surrounded by our modern conveniences.

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And 600,000 mostly white men died 160 years ago in order for it to be eradicated. That’s what we do, we build off the past. We improve. We move on but not forget what it took to get here.

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Then move on from your confederate flag and Middleton Library

Because these joggers want easy money. Doesn’t matter that BS “affirmative action” has unfairly advanced them above qualifying others. It’s all about “give me shite without earning it”.

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agree with most of this other than the fact the 150 years isn't really all that long in a historical sense.

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Considering we’ve been a nation for 240 years and and less than 100 of those years slavery was removed I’d say it’s fair that it’s pretty damn long ago in America’s history.

Not denying that oppression and evil continued after that. It did. Over half our history is not built on slavery despite the claims.

Also not making light if slavery itself... it’s our ugly original sin and our forefathers deserve the black eye they get from it, but to pretend that our ethos as a nation is built on something done for 1/3 of our existence by 1/5 of our states is a stretch.

Ironic that dems are telling us that.

The question was why are people of history being held to a modern standard, and your answer is that they should be held to a modern standard.

After you tear down all the history of all white people, will you then be satisfied with yourself? Will your fantasy of oppression finally be satisfied? Or will you find a new windmill to tilt at?

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to pretend that our ethos as a nation is built on something done for 1/3 of our existence by 1/5 of our states is a stretch.

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And by only 1/3 residents in those states. But I won't pretend mass incarceration, via the war on drugs, hasn't produced thousands upon thousands getting paid under 60 cents an hour. My state has the audacity to call their slave program p.r.i.d.e. I'm actually more put off by the state owning slaves in 2020 than shite done before 1865.

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I agree with most of this other than the fact the 150 years isn't really all that long in a historical sense.

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150 years is a long time for humans. It’s at least 5 generations.

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No oppressed of conquered people have really gotten to full strength in that amount of time,

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Totally false.



Jim Crow wasn’t that long ago. That’s the real bitch. Still within living memory. So it’s understandable that older folks might be distrustful if whites. But what’s disappointing is the mass vitriol of younger people—both whites and blacks—gnashing of teeth about “oppression” etc that simply does not exist and they’ve never experienced.

The drug war has been a failure. But the strict sentencing guidelines which have put so many in prison were implemented as a response to the out of control crime of the 80s and 90s. Democrats and black leaders supported tougher sentencing.