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Why are people of history being held to today standards?

Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:02 pm
Posted by thadcastle
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:02 pm
They are tearing down/changing stuff all over the US because people of history aren’t fitting today standards. Does this means every 10 years we tear down everything? The standards change so much every decade at this pace we need to start with a clean slate ever 10 years.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:03 pm to
Treating other humans as property isn't really a moving target. Its a pretty heinous practice.
Posted by GVT
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:04 pm to
Hear, hear!
Posted by MoarKilometers
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:05 pm to
You ever read the declaration of independence? Most notably the first sentence of paragraph 2? They knew...
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
Posted by TxTiger82
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:08 pm to
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Posted by thadcastle
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:09 pm to
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Treating other humans as property isn't really a moving target. Its a pretty heinous practice.

Yeah but multiple figures of history on a more local scale are being erased because of lesser sins than owning slaves and treating them as property.
Posted by Bayouboogaloocrew
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:09 pm to
Go away you’re trashing up the board.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:09 pm to
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Treating other humans as property isn't really a moving target. Its a pretty heinous practice.


While true do we just discount the accomplishments of all the men (and women) of history who owned slaves? That's a pretty long and distinguished list considering the abolition of slavery in the West was only accomplished within the last 155 years.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:13 pm to
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While true do we just discount the accomplishments of all the men (and women) of history who owned slaves? That's a pretty long and distinguished list considering the abolition of slavery in the West was only accomplished within the last 155 years.


Thats not what I said. The question posed was

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Why are people of history being held to today standards?


I think the standard of slavery is wrong is a pretty fricking low hurdle to get over.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:13 pm to
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While true do we just discount the accomplishments of all the men (and women) of history who owned slaves?


I mean, to many people yes. It’s the nature of “academics” shitting all over the Enlightenment and the related #cancelSTEM movement.

Basically tear down all of society and it’s triumphs because of the shitty things that happened in the past.
Posted by thadcastle
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:14 pm to
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think the standard of slavery is wrong is a pretty fricking low hurdle to get over.



People are getting erased from history for less than owning slaves
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:19 pm to
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I think the standard of slavery is wrong


You're definitely not wrong but that's simply because you have grown up in a world where slavery is illegal, immoral, and downright unthinkable. While it can most certainly be argued that the men who owned slaves within the last 250 years have no good excuse considering conventional wisdom on the subject was beginning to change, the men and women of the pre-Enlightenment period grew up in a radically different world than you and me.
This post was edited on 6/19/20 at 8:20 pm
Posted by ElRoos
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:21 pm to
Because removing relics of the past will obviously cure racism. Duh!
Posted by WildManGoose
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:21 pm to
And yet it's called history for a reason.
Posted by Northshoretiger87
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:31 pm to
Liberals are turning into socialists. They have to be pissed at something all the time. Perpetually “woke.” After they’ve destroyed the remnants of the atrocities they created in the past (Democrats segregated and lost the civil war), they’ll find something else to be butt hurt about. Abortion, lgbtqrstuv, history, Republicans, onto something else from here. Just a passing moment, to be forgotten when they move onto the next thing to be pissed about.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Lawyered
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:32 pm to
2020 does not care about things were... only at how things are now and there is zero nuance to anything at all.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:32 pm to
How else are a certain tiny minority of people going to subvert and destroy a nation?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:33 pm to
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You're definitely not wrong but that's simply because you have grown up in a world where slavery is illegal, immoral, and downright unthinkable. While it can most certainly be argued that the men who owned slaves within the last 250 years have no good excuse considering conventional wisdom on the subject was beginning to change, the men and women of the pre-Enlightenment period grew up in a radically different world than you and me.



Just because they can justify something it doesn't make it right. I understand that it happened for many of thousands of years, and people didn't know any different, that doesn't make it right. Should they be erased from history? No. Should they be judged on the full context of their character? Yes.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:36 pm to
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Liberals are turning into socialists. They have to be posted at something all the time. Perpetually “woke.” After they’ve destroyed the remnants of the atrocities they created in the past (Democrats segregated and lost the civil war),



This is the stupidest gotcha ever
Posted by Bayouboogaloocrew
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:37 pm to
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think the standard of slavery is wrong is a pretty fricking low hurdle to get over.


It ended a long time ago. Was it wrong at the time...sure. Is it an issue in today’s world... no. It’s just an excuse to stir the pot and create a whole shitload of reverse racism that this country is dealing with. People cry racism but their actions create it.
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