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re: Why are Baton Rouge parents so against public schools?

Posted on 1/10/14 at 7:49 am to
Posted by CurDog
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/10/14 at 7:49 am to
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I went to st. joes


my oldest goes there. all girls are bitchy and catty at that age
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20640 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:02 am to
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Come on, UT. You're a smart guy and and outlier. You know the condition of the majority of BR's public schools, especially high schools. One of my friends teaches at Scotlanville. She used to teach in the non-magnet portion and her stories were horrific. Luckily she now teaches kids in the magnet department and it's much better. I know a few people from McKinley who did well for themselves. I also know more who did not do well for themselves.


And you think those people who didn't do well for themselves would been successful coming from private schools? I guess my point is that if you come from a family with an enriched home life and involved parents who instill a strong of value of education, then even a so-called "shitty" public school isn't going to hold you back. The school I went had weak test scores, regular fights, lots of poor minorities, etc., but that didn't stop those who want to learn from doing just that. It's not like the teachers stop teaching. And honestly, you don't learn shite in high school anyway, compared to college.

I just get insulted in these threads where people seem to take joy in implying or flat-out stating that parents who send their kids to these type of schools are engaging in child abuse or don't care about their children. Because my parents sent their three kids to "shitty" public schools and ultimately, I finished 1st in my class in civil engineering at LSU, my sister graduated with all A's from a double major at Tulane, and the little one is well on her way for similar academic success. And my sister and I both have graduate degrees.

I guess all three of us could be outliers. But all the other kids at my high school who came from similar backgrounds did fine in college as well.
This post was edited on 1/10/14 at 8:10 am
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9710 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:09 am to
I'm always amused by people who say "I went to public school" and follow it by saying "I went to Baton Rouge High."

Yeah. You went to public school. That's the truth. But you didn't go to the public school my kid would have to go to, or the public school that the vast majority of kids in this parish would have to go to. Don't compare your ivory tower education to the rathole my kid would be stuck in if there wasn't a private school alternative for us.

The public high schools in Baton Rouge outside of the magnets are a breeding ground for drug abuse, violence and academic apathy. While you can find elements of that at any school, it's the norm and not the exception at these schools in EBR. I only have one kid. I'm not going to take chances with his future by sending him into that.

Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29875 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:11 am to
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Don't compare your ivory tower education to the rathole my kid would be stuck in if there wasn't a private school alternative for us.


Sounds like UT didn't go to that ivory tower.
Posted by SpqrTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2004
9710 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:15 am to
Not responding in particular to UT. Just those in general who take that position.

UT and I are similar in that I also went to public school. I'm not a catholic school or magnet grad at all.

Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20640 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:15 am to
Hey buddy, I did not go to a magnet school and receive an ivory tower education.

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The public high schools in Baton Rouge outside of the magnets are a breeding ground for drug abuse, violence and academic apathy.


Really? Do you not think parenting has effect at all in whether someone is even remotely susceptible to falling victim to these things?
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:17 am to
Honestly, if you graduated pre Katrina, you're comparing lemons to unicorns, so I'm told by a longtime BR teacher
Posted by NoShow
Member since Feb 2013
2339 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:22 am to
Not sure "looking like the United Nations" is a good selling point.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15784 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:37 am to
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Really? Do you not think parenting has effect at all in whether someone is even remotely susceptible to falling victim to these things?


Of course it does, but why not try to eliminate as many obstacles as possible. If money wasn't an issue, would you rather send your child to a private or public school in EBR?
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
11141 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:47 am to
The real answer to the guys question is that people send their kids to private schools because they want their kids to go to a place where education is first. Can you get a good education at Public schools probably so! The issue parents have is the distractions from kids at those schools that are only there because they have to be. This can be very distracting for a student and when kids hang around other kids who don't care about school it makes it harder for them to care as well.

The real issue is that Public schools will never be fixed to be good schools again. The majority of the kids that go to regular public schools parents just don't care and until this changes then public schools will stay crap.. I don't care how much money they put into the system if a kid grows up in a disfunctional home and the parents don't care if they go to school or not then most of those kids will fail!
This post was edited on 1/10/14 at 8:50 am
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30334 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:48 am to
No one is saying you can't succeed going to a shitty public school. It's just that when you send your kid to a good private school, the environment they are in is conducive to going to college.

The core group of friends i hung out with in my catholic high school all graduated from college but 1, b/c he was a lazy idiot, but is making good money now in the plants. and out of those 12 guys, only two aren't engineers or doctors, and that's b/c they are going to take over their dad's business and got degrees in fields that would help with running that business.

Not going to college was never a thought for any of us, and our school helped ingrain that in us. Public schools don't do that for every kid, just the kids that are smart and show signs that they want to succeed.
It helps when the parents, the school, and the childs classmates all have the same goal of going to college.
Out of the 200 people i graduated with, at least 150 went to college. I doubt that type of percentage is normal in public schools.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130904 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 8:55 am to
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Out of the 200 people i graduated with, at least 150 went to college. I doubt that type of percentage is normal in public schools.


wat.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30334 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 9:05 am to
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wat.



I'm not exaggerating. I could literally go through the yearbook and point out the few that didn't attempt college. Just about everyone went to college. Now how many of them graduated from a traditional college, that's a different story.

Point is, my high school ingrained in everyone that they would go to college, and for the most part everyone did what they could to get in, but college isnt' for everyone.
Posted by tiger1014
Member since Jan 2011
12710 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 9:06 am to
Well if all the people that went to private schools went to the public schools those Schools would be much better.

I've been to public school my entire life. But those were bossier parish public schools. Left LSU as a university medalist and went to medical school. Sure wish my parents had blown thousands to send me the private route...
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15784 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 9:12 am to
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Sure wish my parents had blown thousands to send me the private route...


Why take a shot at parents that have no choice but to send their kids to private school and "blow" money.
Posted by WNCTiger
Member since Aug 2006
2883 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 9:14 am to
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Why are Baton Rouge parents so against public schools?


There's an elephant in this here room, and not one comment even mentioned it. Everyone's aware of it, but no one can say it.

One poster did mention the desegregation suit; and if you're looking for the beginning of the #decline of EBRP public schools, it's there. It began with meddling outsiders basically taking over the EBR school system and taking local oversight out of the equation, IMO.

Then start looking for that elephant again, I know it's in here somewhere dammit.

<--when my first child was born in 2001 in BR, I knew I was in trouble when people started asking me what school I was getting her into. Happy to report that here, public schools are pretty good (not dangerous). And that there is a public charter school with more rigorous academics, akin to what you would find in a private school in BR or BRHS, available at no extra cost. Both of my children attend said charter school.

Talk about getting a return on taxes paid. That was my biggest gripe about LA (ie not getting much return) but I digress. BTW overall tax load here is slightly lower than LA.



Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49400 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 9:15 am to
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Really? Do you not think parenting has effect at all in whether someone is even remotely susceptible to falling victim to these things?


Sure, but its a matter of scale. All things being equal, if I told you School "A" puts 30% of their students in college and School "B" puts 99% of their students in college, which is better option for your kid?
Posted by Ironbat31
Member since Jul 2013
805 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 9:16 am to
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I went to st. joes

pics ?
Posted by RyseofRome
Member since Jul 2013
699 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 9:20 am to
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Problem with BRHS is that it isn't for everyone because it is a limited Highschool as far as sports. No football, basketball, or baseball so many kids do not want to attend a school like this but as far as academics it is very good.


BRMHS still had soccer, track, tennis, and swimming. Also, they had intramural sports . We had flag football and basketball. It was more fuun then an actual team wouldve been. Now i hated going to brmhs, it sucked, but let your child decide for himself.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49400 posts
Posted on 1/10/14 at 9:26 am to
The other problem with BRHS - which isn't it's fault - is that parents have to place all their eggs in one basket. If you don't get in, you're going to the non-magnet shithole.

BRHS is a great school for the intellectual elite. However, I do think there are better options for kids with average or above-average intelligence.
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