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re: Who believes in miracles?

Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:41 pm to
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What is the technical definition?

The direct intervention by a deity resulting in the violation of natural laws.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:44 pm to
quote:

by Joshjrn


You insert yourself in every single thread like this to try to prove to yourself how intellectually superior you are. Loser shite
Posted by Artificial Ignorance
Member since Feb 2025
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:52 pm to
Yes…

Also try to be honest and balanced in attributing glory to the miracle maker whike attributing suspicion to the maker of the circumstance that required a miracle to begin with.

Have noticed we humans curiously tend to give one-sided credit.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:53 pm to
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The direct intervention by a deity resulting in the violation of natural laws.


How would a deity even be able to violate natural laws?

Posted by Furious
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 9:57 pm to
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You have already been given the gift And the strength to endure


I have cancer and this is absolute truth. I am in a good place by the grace of God and my enduring hope of eternal life with Him.
Posted by shutterspeed
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

Who believes in miracles?


Where you from, you sexy thing?
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:04 pm to
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:06 pm to
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You insert yourself in every single thread like this to try to prove to yourself how intellectually superior you are. Loser shite

You’re inventing nonsense. You were wrong the last time you spouted your bullshite, and you’re wrong now.
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:11 pm to
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You’re inventing nonsense. You were wrong the last time you spouted your bullshite, and you’re wrong now.


You were all over the Easter threads. We get it dude, you’re just really smart, here’s your affirmation
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:14 pm to
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You insert yourself in every single thread like this to try to prove to yourself how intellectually superior you are. Loser shite


That is a bit harsh since it isn't like he is trolling Sunday School.

Defining miracle does have a direct impact on the answers, and he made a salient observation that the answers might vary significantly, whether the colloquial secular definition or the religious definition is used.

I would say his definition needs a bit more precision to include the violation of natural or scientific laws based on the current understanding. Something could be considered miraculous 200, 400, or 1,000 years ago, whereas today it could be simply explained by a better understanding of science.
Posted by ManBearTiger
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:15 pm to
I administered basic CPR- that I learned from lifeguard
training at 15 years old- to an elderly woman who was having a seemingly lethal end of life moment

Those tips in the classes and tutorials are very much usable in real life
This post was edited on 4/28/25 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31505 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:17 pm to
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You were all over the Easter threads. We get it dude, you’re just really smart, here’s your affirmation

No, I wasn’t, you self important douchebag. I posted on exactly one, this one: LINK

You only remember it because you cried like a bitch there as well. Take your projection somewhere else.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:18 pm to
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No, I wasn’t, you self important douchebag. I posted on exactly one, this one: LINK You only remember it because you cried like a bitch there as well. Take your projection somewhere else.


Touch grass and do something nice for someone, dork. It’ll lift your spirits
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31505 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:19 pm to
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I would say his definition needs a bit more precision to include the violation of natural or scientific laws based on the current understanding. Something could be considered miraculous 200, 400, or 1,000 years ago, whereas today it could be simply explained by a better understanding of science.

I would argue that would imply a subjective, leaning again towards colloquial, definition. In giving what I consider to be a technical, objective definition, it would be a question of fact, not perception. But I appreciate that’s simply my definition.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31505 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:21 pm to
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Touch grass and do something nice for someone, dork. It’ll lift your spirits

Again, your projection is noted. Though to be honest, I didn’t think you this lacking in self awareness.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:22 pm to
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Though to be honest, I didn’t think you this lacking in self awareness.


Want to try that again?
Posted by sportsaddit68
Hammond
Member since Sep 2008
6411 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:22 pm to
I believe in miracles and very much believe in answered prayers.

Last week, a very large portion of the world celebrated the resurrection of Jesus Christ, our Savior. It is through his death and resurrection that our redemption comes from. He healed others and did amazing things, and promised those who follow Him, to repent, get baptized, and we too will have the gift of the Holy Spirit to perform those same miracles.

Regardless of your faith, if you would like to talk about something or need anything, just reply and let me know and I can provide you my email address.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31505 posts
Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:28 pm to
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How would a deity even be able to violate natural laws?

I’m a little confused by the question, considering most people seem to define a deity by the ability to do so. Or am misunderstanding your implication?
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 4/28/25 at 10:31 pm to
A deity's power is inherent in the quality of deitism is, in effect, according to the natural law
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