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Whitesboro, NY Votes to Keep Seal of Settler Strangling Native American

Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:53 am
Posted by 504ByrdGang
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:53 am


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k, residents of Whitesboro, New York, voted against changing the village's official seal, which depicts a white European settler strangling a Native American.

While only about 200 of the 3,000 or so residents of Whitesboro came out to vote Monday, according to Whitesboro mayor Patrick J. O’Connor, those who did overwhelmingly voted to keep the seal as it is, the Associated Press reports.

"Political correctness, who cares?” voter Scott Hastings said to Skyler Srivastava for WKTV News. “This is our village, who cares what the world thinks? I want to see this settled today, once and for all."

The seal came to national attention last summer during the weeks after the mass shooting at a historic black church in Charleston, South Carolina left nine people dead, Jackson Connor wrote for the Village Voice in July. While outside critics take issue with the seal for its racist connotations, saying it looked like something out of the fictional (and famously tone-deaf) city of Pawnee from NBC's "Parks and Recreation," some Whitesboro residents and officials defended the seal, claiming that it depicts a moment of friendship between European settlers and local members of the Oneida nation.


"We known the Indian and the white man wrestling together. We know they both appreciated it and enjoyed it. It was a good thing. So all of this other talk is just that, talk," Whitesboro resident Herb Lamach tells WKTV News. "Whitesboro mayor Patrick O’Connor has also repeatedly defended the symbol, calling it “a very accurate depiction of friendly wrestling matches that took place back in those days,” Connor wrote.

This isn’t the first time that residents have been conflicted over Whitesboro’s seal. Back in the 1970s, a Native American group sued the town, which led officials to alter the original logo, which features the founder of Whitesboro, settler Hugh White, with his hands solidly planted around a Native American man’s throat.

“So after the lawsuit, it was determined it’s part of our history, so we didn’t have to stop using the seal. We just had to move it, so it’s down on his shoulders," Whitesboro historian Judy Mallozzi tells the Observer-Dispatch.

Despite its backstory, the seal’s opponents say that people tend to see it as showing violence against Native Americans, and it is still an inappropriate symbol for the town.

“The first thought that anyone has of this image is, 'There’s some white guy killing an Indian, strangling an Indian,'?” Cliff Matias, director of the Redhawk Native American Arts Council in Brooklyn, told Connor in July. “It’s saying, ‘Well, they didn’t just conquer and defeat the people, but they also beat them in a wrestling match.’ It’s utterly ridiculous that a town would have pride in a symbol like that in this day and age.”

The seal appears on official documents, police cars, village trucks and signs. Voters were presented with several alternative designs at the vote, including one that showed settlers and Native Americans standing side by side, Whitesboro clerk Dana Nimey-Olney describes to the AP. But while most residents who came out decided to cast their vote for the original drawing, some residents do believe that it’s time their town got a new symbol.

"My generation is growing in a way where we are asking for more equality and peace. And unfortunately our original logo (seal) doesn't always depict that to people who don't live here," Mohawk Valley Community College student Elizabeth Brigham, who voted against keeping the logo, tells MKTV News.

h/t BoingBoing




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Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:54 am to
It has been posted already
Posted by 504ByrdGang
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:54 am to
People are always complaining about nothing
Posted by jbgleason
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:54 am to
They did move the hands from the throat to the shoulders though. Just giving him some Shaken Indian Syndrome I guess.
This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 11:55 am
Posted by TigerNlc
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:55 am to
Looks like something that would have been on an episode of Parks and Rec
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:57 am to
the Redskin was well Injun eared
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:57 am to
shite. I live in Whitesboro and voted for it. But they told me it commemorated the first ever consensual inter-racial man on man love act in North America. Liars !
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 11:59 am to
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which depicts a white European settler strangling a Native American.


now imagine if this was a city and the south and it was a white guy strangling a slave
Posted by Black n Gold
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:00 pm to
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"Political correctness, who cares?” voter Scott Hastings said to Skyler Srivastava for WKTV News. “This is our village, who cares what the world thinks?


I agree. Drives me insane seeing outside groups attempting to leave their imprint on places they traditionally have no relations with.
Posted by Sao
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:00 pm to

The Redskin was just trying to sweep the leg.
Posted by GeauxGoose
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:35 pm to
It looks as if he is just pushing the Indian down. Can't see his left hand and I doubt his right hand is big enough to strangle a grown man with one hand. Seems fine to me and good for them for keeping it
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:36 pm to
They should have changed it to a white guy, a black guy, an Injun, and a messican strangling the Indian.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:39 pm to
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Whitesboro, NY


I'm more triggered by the town's name than I am by the seal.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 1/14/16 at 12:41 pm to
Whitesboro Germany?
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