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re: Whites at top colleges would go from 66% to 75% if SAT only admission criteria
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:23 pm to slackster
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:23 pm to slackster
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don't believe in diversity for the sake of diversity,
But that’s exactly what you’re advocating.
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They're enemy in admissions is other white students, not minorities.
Their enemy to admissions are less qualified applicants being admitted ahead of them regardless of race or gender.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 9:25 pm
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Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:23 pm to slackster
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I think building a class that is a reasonable representation of the culture and people you'll encounter post-grad makes for the best students on the whole.
Translation: "I will perform any mental gymnastics necessary to excuse discrimination in admissions as long as the result is more black and brown people enrolled"
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I don't believe in diversity for the sake of diversity,
Yes you do.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:24 pm to UpToPar
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What if I told that you X changes depending on your gender and race?
I'm advocating for how I'd do it, not how everyone does it. If I think a 1200 is the minimum necessary to succeed at my school, I'll consider all 1200+ students.
Are the best doctors only those with the highest MCATs? There is more to it than that.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:24 pm to tigerskin
How can these millennial college students have their “safe space” if there are so many minorities?
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:25 pm to CptRusty
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What part of the "profile" should elevate a student with low scores over a kid with higher scores?
How low are we discussing?
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:25 pm to Mr. Hangover
And he/she is lucky to have a forward thinker like you for a parent
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:26 pm to slackster
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I'm advocating for how I'd do it, not how everyone does it. If I think a 1200 is the minimum necessary to succeed at my school, I'll consider all 1200+ students.
I agree, but you and I both know this is not how it’s done.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:27 pm to CptRusty
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Translation: "I will perform any mental gymnastics necessary to excuse discrimination in admissions as long as the result is more black and brown people enrolled"
I've said nothing of the sort.
Do you hire base on college GPA only? Or some certification test score only?
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:27 pm to Dandy Lion
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English be damned.
I’m on my iPhone. At the poker table.
I’m gonna make stupid mistakes, iPhone corrections, etc. that I’m not gonna edit or care about.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:28 pm to slackster
quote:That is a self-serving policy.
I think building a class that is a reasonable representation of the culture and people you'll encounter post-grad makes for the best students on the whole.
You kinda create the representation and culture by determining who is accepted and then use that to justify who you need to accept in order to create an accurate representation of the culture.
The logic is circular.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:29 pm to UpToPar
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I agree, but you and I both know this is not how it’s done
From what I know of the case, I hope the Asian students win v Harvard.
That doesn't necessarily mean the students getting in are unqualified.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:29 pm to slackster
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I've said nothing of the sort
No, you've danced around it, but your position is completely transparent.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:30 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
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Lol. I ain't melting libtard. I c
Insulting people. Melting.
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I called you out so your response is i am melting. I h
You inaccurately called me out. Melting.
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have seen this play out at my job over the last 5 years. Hire the 2 black women, 2 white women, the Mexican and after 2 years they leave for greener pasture
Not applicable.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:31 pm to Scruffy
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That is a self-serving policy.
I see that to some extent, but the counter arguments expressed in this thread would suggest that all companies should hire based on resume only. No need for interviews. No need to judge the fit. Just take the best resume. No place for subjectivity.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:32 pm to CptRusty
You didn't answer my question. Do you hire based on GPA, test scores, or resume alone?
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:33 pm to slackster
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That doesn't necessarily mean the students getting in are unqualified.
Unqualified based on which qualifications? That’s the problem. Nobody is unqualified if you selectively set the qualifications to achieve a desired outcome.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:33 pm to slackster
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Are the best doctors only those with the highest MCATs? There is more to it than that.
They won’t get it.
It’s the reason they will whine when their 4.0 biology student doesn’t getin but the Spanish major does.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:36 pm to UpToPar
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Unqualified based on which qualifications? That’s the problem. Nobody is unqualified if you selectively set the qualifications to achieve a desired outcome.
In my opinion? Unqualified based on a minimum intelligence required to succeed at the chosen institution.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:38 pm to slackster
We’ve already established that the minimum standards change depending on race and gender.
Posted on 6/24/19 at 9:38 pm to slackster
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Do you hire based on GPA, test scores, or resume alone?
I'm in a small nuche industry. the 5 people I've hired this year I worked with at other companies, so I didnt even bother with an interview process or resume.
Your point is irrelevant though, private industry =/= public universities.
If this discussion is meant to be confined to private universities then that changes things, otherwise my tax dollars mean I get to protest discrimination in admissions.
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