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re: Which vaccine is least risky?
Posted on 11/23/21 at 5:20 pm to dgnx6
Posted on 11/23/21 at 5:20 pm to dgnx6
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But I consider brain damage and death long term effects.
I thought the reference was to 5-year studies to see what the temporal effects were. Technically vaccine injury that results in disability or death that could be traced to the vaccine itself have to occur within a short enough duration that you can actually link them to the vaccination. How do you link something over 5 years to one vaccine? It would be impossible for a pathophysiology to develop in such an occult way over that time span.
I'm well aware of the exceedingly high injury rate associated with the smallpox vaccine though.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 5:22 pm to calcotron
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Who cares? They don't work the same way at all. There is no point of asking or answering your question.
Yeah there is, because there are generally no benefit to long-term studies because vaccine injuries work on far shorter timeframes. But people could be referring to not temporal effects over time but rather effects that are long-term, but those will generally show up immediately, within a very short course of vaccination.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 5:23 pm to brett408
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I am a veteran that served in Iraq.
What changed? When I was deployed to the Middle East, as well as when I was in basic, they pumped me full of who the frick knows what. They did you, too.
Was the military requiring you to be vaccinated to serve a "tyrannical, unconstitutional overreach"?
I'm sorry you're being forced to make what you deem to be a difficult choice but there's truly nothing to be fearful of other than your pride getting a bit hurt.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 5:23 pm to brett408
I certainly wouldn't do moderna
Posted on 11/23/21 at 5:24 pm to brett408
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I am leaning J&J as it is not experimental gene therapy.
I always get a chuckle out of this and I assume because mRNA has RNA in the moniker.
While none of the three US vaccines are gene therapy it is odd the 2 that can't breach the cell wall are called gene therapy while the J&J is not even though it delivers the virus' DNA past the cell wall and into the cell itself.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 5:26 pm to mmmmmbeeer
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Was the military requiring you to be vaccinated to serve a "tyrannical, unconstitutional overreach"?
I'm sorry you're being forced to make what you deem to be a difficult choice but there's truly nothing to be fearful of other than your pride getting a bit hurt
I was part of the group that looked at the effects of the initial Anthrax vax and told them to frick off and do gooder.
They eventually produced a less harmful version and it was approved by FDA (not that it matters)...
Small pox was the same formula as before and still fricked up a buncha troops that deployed.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 5:30 pm to Obtuse1
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While none of the three US vaccines are gene therapy it is odd the 2 that can't breach the cell wall are called gene therapy while the J&J is not even though it delivers the virus' DNA past the cell wall and into the cell itself.
They initiate a spike protein and the Swedes say that protein even gets into the nucleus and wrecks shite.
So...there's that.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 5:31 pm to IceTiger
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They initiate a spike protein and the Swedes say that protein even gets into the nucleus and wrecks shite.
Damn you didn't understand that study at all. Or even read it. Nicely done.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 5:35 pm to brett408
I don't know what field you work in but if by chance it is the Aerospace/Defense industry, and you work for one of the companies under Raytheon, file a religious exemption.
I know, for a fact, that every single religious exemption within Raytheon is accepted...bar none.
I know, for a fact, that every single religious exemption within Raytheon is accepted...bar none.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 5:53 pm to brett408
I love people that are concerned about long term effects. Name one vaccine in the history of vaccines that has shown negative side effects years down the line. They ain’t a thing. Vaccines will show side effects within two months at the latest.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 7:57 pm to PentagonTiger
Scientific arrogance looking for a desired conclusion. You people making a claim about previous vaccines and applying it to a completely different kind of vaccine must also think that all pain killers are the same in terms of long or short term effects. You just don't know, period. You can't. You do not know the path of every particle or molecule that goes in or is created by the body as a result of the mRNA vaccines. You are full of shite if you say you know. Spouting facts about old vaccines doesn't make your point at all. You just want to believe, so you do. "Show me when this has ever happened" is a stupid argument when you're in truly new territory.
Posted on 11/23/21 at 8:34 pm to calcotron
Posted on 11/23/21 at 8:53 pm to brett408
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I am a veteran that served in Iraq. Don't tell me about cowardice.
It is easy to say tough guy shite when you don't have a family that depends on you making a living
Spare me.
Nothing pleases tyrants more than cowards like you who bow the knee to their tyranny and go along with it
Posted on 11/23/21 at 8:54 pm to brett408
quote:doesn’t sound that way
I recently lost my freedom to make my own personal healthcare
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:28 pm to Shaken not Stirred
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I don't know what field you work in but if by chance it is the Aerospace/Defense industry, and you work for one of the companies under Raytheon, file a religious exemption.
I know, for a fact, that every single religious exemption within Raytheon is accepted...bar none.
I wish I would have known this before yesterday
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:32 pm to StanSmith
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Just got the Phizer booster. First two shots only had soreness at injection site. The booster has given me 2 days of fever, some nausea, headache and overall soreness. I've had a similar experience with a yellow fever vaccine
what's the point of shot 3?
Posted on 11/23/21 at 11:36 pm to HamzooReb
"Religious accomodations" are starting to come in (all approvals from what I've heard) for the org I'm with.. Federal Contractor
Some people have been lawyering up
Several channels where people have been organizing
ETA: The Missouri lawsuit with 15-20ish? other states has a status meeting with the judge in the morning
Some people have been lawyering up
Several channels where people have been organizing
ETA: The Missouri lawsuit with 15-20ish? other states has a status meeting with the judge in the morning
This post was edited on 11/23/21 at 11:39 pm
Posted on 11/24/21 at 1:36 am to redneck hippie
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So mandates work?
LOL
Yeah they work.
Work to never get democrats elected again.
Keep it up. They work great.
Posted on 11/24/21 at 2:58 am to brett408
Get J&J and have an acupuncturist setup close by to do cupping on the injection site asap after injection. Less than an hour is ideal. Take aspirin prior to injection. After cupping do not shower or get the cupping site wet for 24 hours.
Take NAC supplements 4-6 weeks after procedure as well as aspirin daily.
Take NAC supplements 4-6 weeks after procedure as well as aspirin daily.
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