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re: Which human being has made the biggest impact on human history?

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Posted by CaptainsWafer
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Whoever invented and/or discovered gunpowder.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:10 pm to
I don't believe anybody has or will ever rise from the dead, but Jesus is the most influential person in the history of the world. Number 2 is Steve Jobs.
Posted by The Third Leg
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:10 pm to
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and yes, he was a real person. I think even atheists and other religions acknowledge his existence as a living human at the time.

Long before Jesus, a once in a gazillion type genetic mutation occurred in what was likely an otherwise uneventful human conception, resulting in the offspring acquiring the ability to speak. This mutation paved the way for your lord and savior to commence with his long con that continues to retard much of the west.
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:10 pm to
Jesus was basically just David Blaine in the old days
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:11 pm to
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Drew Brees. Kept hell from freezing over when Saints won Super Bowl first


Hell had frozen over and pigs had flown at the NFCCG

Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:11 pm to
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Jesus, ignoring whatever you believe, was almost surely a human man who walked this earth.


Can we really list him as "most influential" when his status is "almost surely a human man who walked this Earth"?

For the purposes of the thread, doesn't it make more sense to name somebody that slam dunk, no doubt actually existed?

Posted by VanCleef
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:11 pm to
Roman emperor Constantine's conversion to Christianity is the reason Christianity is a major religion and not a sect lost in the pages of history like Zoroastrianism.
Constantine was more important to Christianity than Christ
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:12 pm to
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Number 2 is Steve Jobs
holy fricking shite he had a good PR man

And like Jerry Garcia he died at the right time, which helps
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:12 pm to
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Long before Jesus, a once in a gazillion type genetic mutation occurred in what was likely an otherwise uneventful human conception, resulting in the offspring acquiring the ability to speak. This mutation paved the way for your lord and savior to commence with his long con that continues to retard much of the west.




So your answer is the guy who made that happen?
Posted by Caplewood
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:13 pm to
He was more like a cult leader than a magician. Brainwasher extraordinaire, gilded tongued conman for the ages
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:14 pm to
We have no idea what he was like
Posted by Caplewood
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:15 pm to
Uhh ok man
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:15 pm to
Perfect timing.
Posted by gorillacoco
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:15 pm to
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Yep. Like I said, the answer has to be a religious figure. I'd agree it's subjective beyond that.


That's exactly why it doesn't have to be a religious figure. Those guys are more or less interchangeable as far as actually affecting the real events on the ground. That's why someone like Ghengis Khan outweighs them a thousandfold.

Put another religion in Christianity's place and you have much the same result. Put another dude in Ghengis Khans place and the Mongolian empire never exists. China remains in tact, as well as the Middle East. Who knows, maybe china hits the industrial revolution first. Kublai Khan never lives. You're taking about a significant percentage of the worlds population that doesn't die at the hands of Mongolian invaders. Vastly different rulers and and entirely different political landscape. Jesus inspires people on an individual basis, not on a political one
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:15 pm to
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Can we really list him as "most influential" when his status is "almost surely a human man who walked this Earth"?

For the purposes of the thread, doesn't it make more sense to name somebody that slam dunk, no doubt actually existed?





The hedge created with my words is true for anyone who lived back then. The likelihood of Jesus being a human is as high or greater than any other person written about that lived during that time or prior.
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:15 pm to
People can't even agree on what color the dude was!
Posted by Caplewood
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:16 pm to
And?
Posted by pensacola
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:17 pm to
Les Miles
Posted by Cruiserhog
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:17 pm to
Genghis Khan and Isaac Newton equally.

Jesus is only Jesus because Constantinople made Christianity the state religion.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/17/15 at 10:17 pm to
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Put another religion in Christianity's place and you have much the same result. Put another dude in Ghengis Khans place and the Mongolian empire never exists.


The fact that you are so confident about this statement makes me not want to even try.
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