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Which country’s military do you consider to have won WWI?
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:27 pm
Obviously, two countries as a whole won WWI and they were the US and Japanese.
But which country’s military strength won the war? You could say that the US getting in was the straw that broke the camel’s back to be sure. But we came in way late and our sheer numbers were more than what the Germans could stand at that point in the war.
So I guess it basically comes down to the US, UK, and French militaries. Which one do you think, had they not been in the war, the Central Powers would’ve won the war?
But which country’s military strength won the war? You could say that the US getting in was the straw that broke the camel’s back to be sure. But we came in way late and our sheer numbers were more than what the Germans could stand at that point in the war.
So I guess it basically comes down to the US, UK, and French militaries. Which one do you think, had they not been in the war, the Central Powers would’ve won the war?
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:29 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Uruguay
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Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:31 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
The United States financial system which would have been up shite creek with a British non-victory.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:33 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
The British navy won it by blockading.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:33 pm to HempHead
We had a vested interest in the entente Powers winning the war yes but that’s not what I asked.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:34 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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But which country’s military strength won the war?
The US and it really isn't debatable. Wasn't just the number of troops but the material support that came with them. My great-great-grandfather was a general under Pershing in WW1, have his personal diary/journal that he typed after his return along with a guidon of his from the 2nd ID from that war.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:35 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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We had a vested interest in the entente Powers winning the war yes but that’s not what I asked.
I'm just saying that our financial and materiel contribution to the war outweighs the military contribution, especially considering that American financiers helped the Bolsheviks topple the Romanovs.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:36 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
The french and the english made the largest contributions to the winning effort. However, Americas entrance sealed the fate of the triple alliance. Ans america undoubtedly came away in the strongest position at the conclusion of the war than any of the other major participants. So I guess it depends on how you want to view your initial question
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:37 pm to HempHead
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I'm just saying that our financial and materiel contribution to the war outweighs the military contribution
You’ll get no argument from me on that one, Hemp.
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especially considering that American financiers helped the Bolsheviks topple the Romanovs.
Hindsight being what it is...that was dumb.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:37 pm to HempHead
To be perfectly honest an early German victory would have been best for Europe as a whole. And the world
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:39 pm to fr33manator
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To be perfectly honest and early German victory would have been best for Europe as a whole. And the world
I agree, but who knows what happens in a place like France who at that point had every bit of nationalism embedded in it as Germany did. We could be talking about another Napoleon type instead of Hitler.
There’s too many what if variables that come with that situation. Although an early German victory over France keeps UK out of the war and therefore we may not become the financial power we were destined to be.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:39 pm to fr33manator
It really wouldn't 
What would have been better for the world would have been if England and France weren't as vindictive towards Germany after the war and if they followed our blueprint of post ww2 in the mold of focusing on rebuilding a defeated Germany in their own image
What would have been better for the world would have been if England and France weren't as vindictive towards Germany after the war and if they followed our blueprint of post ww2 in the mold of focusing on rebuilding a defeated Germany in their own image
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:40 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
I thought this was about WWII. Whoops.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:40 pm to WestCoastAg
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What would have been better for the world would have been if England and France weren't as vindictive towards Germany after the war and if they followed our blueprint of post ww2 in the mold of focusing on rebuilding a defeated Germany in their own image
They had to pay their debtors somehow.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:41 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:good edit
thought this was about WWII. Whoops.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:41 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
France gets a reputation as being surrender monkeys but they gave the (better) German army all it could handle and helped drag this thing out for years
Too many dynamics to just say one country was the reason, but France was a big reason
Too many dynamics to just say one country was the reason, but France was a big reason
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:42 pm to HempHead
And you do that how we did it. You tie their industry and economy directly to ours. Think about how much money our country made during the rebuilding of Europe after ww2. You dont destroy your defeated foe. You build them up and tie them to you in economic dependence
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:42 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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But which country’s military strength won the war?
France. By not breaking and resisting the sledge hammer head of the German onslaught at the Marne they were able to stagnate the lines. They suffered the bulk of the losses and that stagnation lead to trench warfare which was very static. This static prevented big breakthroughs by a superior German army and helped to starve them into submission.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:44 pm to HeadChange
I'll just throw this out there, reading about trench warfare in WW1 will blow the mind. Early on a country, I can't recall right now, would send a soldier out with a rifle and 2 soldiers behind him carrying only ammunition. Once the front guy went down the next would pick up the rifle and continue and so forth.
This post was edited on 9/25/18 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 9/25/18 at 5:44 pm to fr33manator
I often wonder if the Germans not breaking through in August 1914 was a blunder by the Germans or the French were just that good on the defensive right there.
I think it’s moreso a blunder by the Germans when it comes down to it though. They didn’t stick to their plan.
I think it’s moreso a blunder by the Germans when it comes down to it though. They didn’t stick to their plan.
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