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re: Which city will be more economically devastated from COVID

Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:05 am to
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:05 am to
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Individuals. The people that are flocking to beaches by the 1000s every weekend right now. It’s not nearly the same thing as conventions and major sporting events, but it’s something.

My very small social media circle has frequently and consistently seen out of towners within driving distance making day trips or weekend trips to New Orleans throughout all of this. I’ve seen exactly 0 making trips to Baton Rouge.



But what percentage of tourism is that compared to 2019 numbers? Sure, you may get “1000s” of people going to NOLA for entertainment but if that is ~75% of pre-COVID numbers, that is a death blow to the New Orleans economy.

BR isn’t a tourist city so a decrease in tourism may hurt but it is not an economic killer like it is in New Orleans.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33459 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:07 am to
It seems as though most of the people on this board have absolutely no idea what they are talking about when it comes to Baton Rouge. We have one of the most diverse economies in the state. Unless you think that government, education, healthcare, and downstream petrochemical are all going to collapse as economic drivers, I'm not sure I understand the logic behind positing that we will fare poorly relative to other economies.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:07 am to
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Covid will be completely forgotten about and in 3 years tops NOLA will be having record number of tourist again year after year


We will still have to deal with economic recession resulting from COVID which will be around longer than the disease.

When this disease started in March, I was hopeful that we’d have a quick rebound after a very short shutdown. I’m not hopeful anymore.
Posted by lootershooter
Member since Sep 2019
395 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:11 am to
Most working people and most businesses have already left Baton Rouge for Livingston and Ascension parishes. Baton Rouge is going to be another wasteland like Detroit.
Posted by SerenityNow
Chicago
Member since Feb 2008
2419 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:12 am to
Unfortunately, New Orleans is going to be in a world of hurt for some time, in my opinion.

The city didn't have a ton of job opportunities in the white collar sector to begin with. You now compound that with a workforce that was heavily dependent on service industry jobs, which are also now nonexistent and will be slow to come back. On top of a city government that is beyond inept and will likely need to raise taxes - again...I don't think it's going to be a pretty picture for the next few years.

The cherry on top is that you may have people whose companies allow them to start to work remotely and they stay on but move somewhere cheaper.

I do think that the suburbs of NOLA stand to actually benefit however, to some degree. Taxes are less, real estate is cheaper and at least you get some form of semi-functioning government.

Very curious to see if the incredible bubble of housing costs in areas like Lakeview and Mid-City finally burst.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
22577 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:14 am to
Nola
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:15 am to
My gut tells me that Bogalusa is really in the crosshairs here.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33459 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:16 am to
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Most working people and most businesses have already left Baton Rouge for Livingston and Ascension parishes. Baton Rouge is going to be another wasteland like Detroit.


Weird, being Baton Rouge's GDP keeps going up
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53839 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:17 am to
You know better than to say anything positive about BR on this board. All that's left here is LSU
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:18 am to
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Most working people and most businesses have already left Baton Rouge for Livingston and Ascension parishes. Baton Rouge is going to be another wasteland like Detroit.


BR is a shitty city but y’all need to learn the dynamics of metropolitan based economics. Money flows between three parishes (and WBR) as part of a single system.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33459 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:20 am to
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You know better than to say anything positive about BR on this board. All that's left here is LSU


I know, frick me, right?
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:33 am to
The links are posted for the BLS data of Baton Rouge and New Orleans.

New Orleans is faring worse.

New Orleans

Baton Rouge
This post was edited on 7/18/20 at 10:37 am
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216685 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:34 am to
New Orleans and it’s not even close......


BR has LSU........
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33459 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 10:48 am to
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New Orleans and it’s not even close......


BR has LSU........


We do, and LSU is a big deal, but it's not near the percentage of the economy that people generally believe that it is. For example, citing to OleWar's links, all education and healthcare *combined* is 13% of the economy. Government is 20% by itself.

Like I said before, Baton Rouge has a diverse economy, and for Louisiana, it's incredibly diverse.
This post was edited on 7/18/20 at 10:49 am
Posted by The Cool No 9
70816
Member since Jan 2014
11304 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 7:57 pm to
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in 2025?
Dude I don’t give a dog shite about covid today in July 2020 if I had the money I’d go anywhere. No way people are holding out for five years.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
17804 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:00 pm to
Since the restaurant and tourism businesses have crashed, I would say undoubtedly New Orleans.
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
10008 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:04 pm to
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Baton Rouge or New Orleans?



New Orleans by far. Their tourism and hospitality industry are fricked

Baton Rouge has government and petrochemical to fall back on. Both are relatively stable compared to other industries
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
52930 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 8:08 pm to
No LSU football would annihilate BR

But just based on the overall level of devastation the answer is easily Nola
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