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Where would you have rather been a soldier: Stalingrad or Verdun?
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:19 am
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:19 am
It's the worst of both worlds but if you were forced to choose, where would you have fought and why?
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Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:20 am to RollTide1987
Verdun. At least if you survived you had a chance to rotate out.
In Stalingrad you were stuck in the frozen hell.
In Stalingrad you were stuck in the frozen hell.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:22 am to RollTide1987
If I’m in the Red Army I’d rather be at the battle of Stalingrad all day.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:24 am to RollTide1987
Verdun and not even close. At least the British Army gave some what of a frick if it’s soldiers survived. The Russians gave less than zero fricks about the death of their own. Still don’t, really.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 11:25 am
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:25 am to bamagreycoat
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I’m in the Red Army I’d rather be at the battle of Stalingrad all day
Know how I know you haven't read much on the subject?
Verdun and it isn't even close. As bad as Verdun was, stalingrad was absolutely worse.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:26 am to RollTide1987
A woman whose father was killed st Stalingrad spoke at our school back in the day. Was interesting and yes a death sentence.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:27 am to RollTide1987
The weather was better and there was more food at Verdun, so yeah
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:27 am to beerJeep
I’ve read up a good deal on Stalingrad but not so much on Verdun I will concede. But at Stalingrad the Red Army had the supply advantage. I wouldn’t of wanted to be a German soldier at Stalingrad.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:36 am to bamagreycoat
I'd rather be German or French in verdun than Russian in stalingrad.
The Russians were absolutely brutal. The weather in stalingrad was absolutely brutal. House to house fighting. Floor by floor block by block. As a Russian, you're equally as likely to die from your comrade as from the enemy.
In verdun you had the chance to be rotated out. You weren't clearing out room to room floor to floor. But you had to deal with the artillery.
Both were horrible. But stalingrad had to be the living embodiment of hell.
Also, last place I'd want to be in verdun is in one of the forts. frick being stationed in Fort Douaumont at the onset of the battle.
The Russians were absolutely brutal. The weather in stalingrad was absolutely brutal. House to house fighting. Floor by floor block by block. As a Russian, you're equally as likely to die from your comrade as from the enemy.
In verdun you had the chance to be rotated out. You weren't clearing out room to room floor to floor. But you had to deal with the artillery.
Both were horrible. But stalingrad had to be the living embodiment of hell.
Also, last place I'd want to be in verdun is in one of the forts. frick being stationed in Fort Douaumont at the onset of the battle.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 11:39 am
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:39 am to beerJeep
You make excellent points and ole Comrade Stalin did say “it takes a brave man to be a coward in the Red Army”.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:42 am to RollTide1987
Verdun boggles my mind. 300 day battle with an average of 2,300+ casualties per day. And as bad as that sounds Stalingrad is much worse.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 11:45 am
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:43 am to bamagreycoat
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You make excellent points and ole Comrade Stalin did say “it takes a brave man to be a coward in the Red Army”.
So you've given up already? You had a position, fight to keep it, you yellow Bastard! Beer jeep just shoved it in and you quit?
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:43 am to RollTide1987
Verdun, and it ain't even close.
German army was stripping frozen bloody clothes from dead bodies for warmth at Stalingrad...and getting their arse whipped. Temps were consistantly 20 to 30 below. Russian mud stifled supply lines, so summer uniforms were all most of them had. frickest that shitiem.
Give me a short death from shelling over slowly freezing and starving to death.
German army was stripping frozen bloody clothes from dead bodies for warmth at Stalingrad...and getting their arse whipped. Temps were consistantly 20 to 30 below. Russian mud stifled supply lines, so summer uniforms were all most of them had. frickest that shitiem.
Give me a short death from shelling over slowly freezing and starving to death.
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 11:49 am
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:43 am to RollTide1987
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The one with the rifle shoots! The one without follows him! When the one with the rifle gets killed, the one who is following picks up the rifle and shoots!
Yea, frick that.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:45 am to RollTide1987
Verdun,
If you made it out alive at least there were French women and French wine available.
If you made it out alive at least there were French women and French wine available.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:46 am to JackieTreehorn
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Verdun boggles my mind. 300 day battle with an average of 2,300+ casualties per day.
eTA: if any of you haven’t listened to Dan Carlin’s Blueprint for Armageddon or Ghosts of the Ostfront, you owe it to yourself to do so.
Excellent programs.
Unternehmen Gericht
One of the translations means “place of execution”
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 11:50 am
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:49 am to fr33manator
The whole goal of verdun was to bleed France white.
Almost happened. Almost.
It was a site specifically chosen to cause as much bloodshed as possible. The Germans knew the French would go all in to defend verdun, they just didn't realize exactly what "all in" meant.
Almost happened. Almost.
It was a site specifically chosen to cause as much bloodshed as possible. The Germans knew the French would go all in to defend verdun, they just didn't realize exactly what "all in" meant.
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:51 am to fr33manator
Stalingrad based on having 20 more years of medical technology. You are not coming away unscathed from ethier so maybe they can fix you
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:52 am to fr33manator
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Verdun. At least if you survived you had a chance to rotate out.
I can’t help but think what that would do to me mentally though. Being in the closest place to hell ever seen on earth, getting to leave, and then being forced to come back. Always having that thought in the back of your head. With that being said, I haven’t read up much on the battle of Stalingrad. Could someone point me in the direction of something good that goes into details of how bad Stalingrad was? Wikipedia focuses a lot on the technicals of the battle
This post was edited on 1/6/18 at 11:53 am
Posted on 1/6/18 at 11:52 am to fr33manator
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Ghosts of the Osfront
Aim at the Russian who's aiming at the Russian retreating.
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