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re: Where can you sign the St. George petition?
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:51 am to Mike da Tigah
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:51 am to Mike da Tigah
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Yeah, you should just stick with motherfricker instead. Argumentative? You're not?
My post history speaks for itself. I'm one easy to get along with motherfricker. Pride myself on seeing both sides of any argument as long as it's healthy and not like "should I kill my healthy dog b/c he chewed the couch?".
my only 'argument' here is to let people vote.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 10:58 am
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Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:53 am to LSURussian
And here's a hypothetical regarding who deserves what sales tax money and should be able to vote.
Imagine if the people in the area bounded by Bluebonnet, Perkins, I-10, and Siegen decided they wanted to incorporate their own little city within the parish, taking all the MoL and Perkins Rowe sales tax with them. Do you think if would be fair for them to do that? And should everyone else in the Parish have a say?
Imagine if the people in the area bounded by Bluebonnet, Perkins, I-10, and Siegen decided they wanted to incorporate their own little city within the parish, taking all the MoL and Perkins Rowe sales tax with them. Do you think if would be fair for them to do that? And should everyone else in the Parish have a say?
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:54 am to LSURussian
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The "entire city supports" = the sales taxes collected at the MoL. Unless you believe only SG residents shop there.
By that logic, Baton Rouge should be entitled to sales taxes generated at Bass Pro in Denham Springs or the outlet mall in Gonzales since Baton Rougeons choose to shop there.
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Your logic sucks.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:55 am to Mr. Tom Morrow
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Between him, Pennymoney, and magilablowschunks, I can almost guarantee you that one of them either works very closely with Kip or is a council member. They are way too aggressive in their posting not to be. And ftr, I've always like Russian.
I like most people here. These debates are good. I'm an IRL friend of Delgado and I've said before I disagree with him on this issue.
But I also see a lot of genuine fear of splitting the city, huge spike in prop taxes in STG, and other issues.
My personal opinion in recent months has shifted from let STG break away to thinking that this threat has kind of forced all parties to the table to fix shite.
So maybe we are Better Together.
But I do NOT like lawmakers recent tactics to prevent the VOTE on the breakaway.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:58 am to mikelbr
quote:I also hope that will be the outcome of this situation.
this threat has kind of forced all parties to the table to fix shite.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:58 am to mikelbr
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My personal opinion in recent months has shifted from let STG break away to thinking that this threat has kind of forced all parties to the table to fix shite.
There was little to no pressure applied to the school board outside of angry parents before St. George discussed incorporation. Now people are at least having the conversation...people with some power outside of the pathetic school board are considering options now.
If St. George doesn't happen, I hope it at least forces radical changes in EBR's pathetic public schools
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But I do NOT like lawmakers recent tactics to prevent the VOTE on the breakaway.
I agree....and the reaction and dishonesty displayed by some people (including posters on this board) have driven me to sign the petition.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 11:07 am
Posted on 4/25/14 at 10:59 am to member12
Maybe it's your reading comprehension that sucks.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 11:00 am to urinetrouble
quote:No.
Do you think if would be fair for them to do that?
quote:Yes.
And should everyone else in the Parish have a say?
Posted on 4/25/14 at 11:06 am to mikelbr
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my only 'argument' here is to let people vote.
I'm fine with that, but I will say like with everything else we vote on, I just a soon someone stay home than vote ignorantly on the matter, or purely emotionally on something that will have big effects one way or the other on the matter without considering everything.
And that's where threads like this come into play, where people share opinions and arguments. Some will hold very strong opinions, and that's to be expected.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 11:11 am
Posted on 4/25/14 at 11:09 am to urinetrouble
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Do you think if would be fair for them to do that? And should everyone else in the Parish have a say?
Not sure I agree that an entire parish should be able to vote on incorporation. Should an entire parish decide if one particular city's charter should be surrendered?
If state law is changed to allow parish-wide votes on issues regarding a city's charter, that law should be applied to all parishes statewide.....not just to East Baton Rouge.
This post was edited on 4/25/14 at 11:14 am
Posted on 4/25/14 at 11:18 am to member12
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Should an entire parish decide if one particular city's charter should be surrendered?
Yeah, because that has exactly the same implications on the rest of the parish as a new city being incorporated that is larger than any city already in the parish. 
Posted on 4/25/14 at 11:22 am to member12
I believe a big issue is the consolidated government. It's not efficient for Metro-BR. Consolidated governments are great when a city's boundaries are identical to the parish/county, or when a vast majority of the parish/county citizens live inside city limits.
That simply is no longer the case with BR. If SG were to incorporate, it would become the fifth largest city in LA over night. The consolidated government simply cannot meet the needs of such a large unincorporated area while it is beholden to a city of 250,000+.
That simply is no longer the case with BR. If SG were to incorporate, it would become the fifth largest city in LA over night. The consolidated government simply cannot meet the needs of such a large unincorporated area while it is beholden to a city of 250,000+.
Posted on 4/25/14 at 11:53 am to Antonio Moss
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The consolidated government simply cannot meet the needs of such a large unincorporated area while it is beholden to a city of 250,000+.
Which needs??
Posted on 4/25/14 at 11:59 am to urinetrouble
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Which needs??
Posted on 4/25/14 at 1:18 pm to member12
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If state law is changed to allow parish-wide votes on issues regarding a city's charter, that law should be applied to all parishes statewide.....not just to East Baton Rouge.
This needs to be repeated over and over if this asinine "law" gets anymore traction.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 6:50 pm to seeinspots
My suspicions were correct. You started this user name just to talk shite on the St. George people. I bet you’re either an alter or someone that works for BRAC or BRAF. You’re a shill.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:14 pm to mikelbr
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But I do NOT like lawmakers recent tactics to prevent the VOTE on the breakaway.
THERE IS NO BREAKAWAY!
St. George is not breaking away from the city of Baton Rouge because St. George IS NOT A PART of the city of Baton Rouge.
St. George is not breaking away from EBR parish because St. George will continue to be in EBR parish.
Got it? Good.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 7:46 pm to Lickitty Split
I was going thru puberty when this thread was started.
Posted on 6/25/18 at 9:51 pm to The Boat
Congratulations on your decision to sign. I just hope that you, unlike most of the St. George people I have heard, understand the difference between a Parish tax and a city tax. And if you have children understand that AT BEST you have a 3 year wait until a school board will even be formed. Funding for new schools and the litigation over legacy costs, etc might push that back even more.
I’m not against the petition or an ISD, but there is so much stupid, on both sides of this thing it aches.
If the most effort you put into your community is to sign a piece of friking paper then I fully expect the STG effort to be pointless. The school desegregation case is over so fight for neighborhood schools. He’ll keep going after an ISD...BR still has a 7-5 Republican majority on the city council and the dummy mayor we now have only won by a slim margin.
I’m not against the petition or an ISD, but there is so much stupid, on both sides of this thing it aches.
If the most effort you put into your community is to sign a piece of friking paper then I fully expect the STG effort to be pointless. The school desegregation case is over so fight for neighborhood schools. He’ll keep going after an ISD...BR still has a 7-5 Republican majority on the city council and the dummy mayor we now have only won by a slim margin.
This post was edited on 6/25/18 at 9:56 pm
Posted on 6/25/18 at 10:02 pm to longtooth
Three years. Probably a conservative estimate, but remember the organizers have been fighting the battle for at least six years now.
EBRSS is not going to change, City Hall isn't going to change, and trying to fight the status quo isn't working. They all have each other's back. They all rally together to protect their own interests.
EBRSS is not going to change, City Hall isn't going to change, and trying to fight the status quo isn't working. They all have each other's back. They all rally together to protect their own interests.
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