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re: When will it be possible for interstellar travel?

Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:51 pm to
within 200-300 years.

Imagine trying to explain half the shite we have to the founding fathers, Ben Franklin or Edmond Halley? They would think you insane. In the last century we went from powered stick and canvas gliders to probes out of our solar system.
I believe there is a way to get out there and someone will figure it out eventually.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:53 pm to
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within 200-300 years.



Possibly with our close neighbors like Alpha Centauri, but nothing outside of 10 light years from here.
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:55 pm to
Maybe never. With the upper limit of travel being the speed of light, which itself is not actually attainable, it would take an infeasible amount of time to do any real exploration between the stars and an even more impossible amount of time to reach another galaxy. It would take a truly complete change in how we understand the universe for this to change. As far as I know.
Posted by ksayetiger
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 8:59 pm to
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And I'm sure the aliens out there don't give a frick about it either.





Oh my friend. They are gonna care when Leonard Fornette runs their asses back to their own galaxy.
Posted by Walking the Earth
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:03 pm to
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A 10 milligram particle striking a spaceship travelling at 10% speed of light would equal the kinetic energy of 100 kilograms of TNT. A typical rain drop weighs 200 milligrams.

The Oort Cloud is full of debris that may extend out 1 to 3 light years past the solar system.


True but "full of debris" is a relative term. Space is really empty.

Posted by Langland
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:04 pm to
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Oort Cloud
Posted by Peazey
Metry
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:10 pm to
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True but "full of debris" is a relative term. Space is really empty.


It's like the depiction of an asteroid field in star wars. Asteroids aren't nearly that close in reality. Sure they are grouped together more closely than elsewhere. The closest asteroids to each other are still millions and millions of miles apart.
This post was edited on 10/27/15 at 9:11 pm
Posted by BabyTac
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:11 pm to
All this talk is just another example of people not being able to be competent with their current surroundings, current relationships, and current activity. There's always got to be something else, something better, and something more satisfying that I need to depress my current state even if it goes to the extreme believing in aliens and other freaking planets.
Posted by foshizzle
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:12 pm to
Interstellar travel by humans is essentially impossible. Accelerating so many tons of life support equipment to relativistic speeds is, well, laughable.

Interstellar travel by our very tiny robot descendants just might be. They would be designed for the task, of course. Sending 1 or 2 kilograms to relativistic speeds is still tough but much more achievable.
Posted by ccomeaux
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:12 pm to
Define: travel.
Traditional travel, probably never
Interdeminsional : when the technology is gifted to mankind
Via portal/star gate : when we establish contact with another intelligent civilization

So much technology is being suppressed in order to maintain global economies. Perhaps when we run out of oil the advancements will be released but even then probably not. There is some serious shite being hidden.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:13 pm to
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even if it goes to the extreme believing in aliens and other freaking planets.


You don't believe other freaking planets exist? That's special.
Posted by Covingtiger
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:16 pm to
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All this talk is just another example of people not being able to be competent with their current surroundings, current relationships, and current activity. There's always got to be something else, something better, and something more satisfying that I need to depress my current state even if it goes to the extreme believing in aliens and other freaking planets.
I mean... if we're not looking forward, what's the point?
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
14583 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:17 pm to
....meaning other 'inhabitable' planets which would mean other planets like Earth to us. You're on Earth, why the need to go to another one?
Posted by 70345
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:17 pm to
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Never say never
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space is just too damned big

You are thinking like a human. We, humanity, only know what is permitted to know by the Cabal and other factions. We are fed perceptions thru movies and theological papers. By this time next year tons of data will have been released that has been hidden. It will make Snowden's information look like a one page book. Oh, the travel question: think dimensional linkage.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:20 pm to
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All this talk is just another example of people not being able to be competent with their current surroundings, current relationships, and current activity. There's always got to be something else, something better, and something more satisfying that I need to depress my current state even if it goes to the extreme believing in aliens and other freaking planets.



My point is I don't see how it's feasible with any energy source we should have anytime soon. I think it will eventually be possible, but not foreseeably. I have faith that scientists will discover it, but to exploit it, it will take a massive energy source much greater than all of humanity's current power combined. That is pretty much a fact.
Posted by Tortious
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:22 pm to
The day the current understating is proved wrong. Scientific "fact" has consistently been proven wrong by subsequent understanding. Years ago the Sun was being pulled across the sky by a chariot. Why do we think it current understanding is any more correct?
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:22 pm to
3000 years
Posted by ksayetiger
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:35 pm to
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So much technology is being suppressed in order to maintain global economies. Perhaps when we run out of oil the advancements will be released but even then probably not. There is some serious shite being hidden. 





Well you sound like an expert. Please let us know what some of this technology is, oh enlightened one

Be specific as possible
Posted by Christopher Columbo
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:35 pm to
Doesn't the new Lincoln MKX already do this?
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 10/27/15 at 9:55 pm to
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Lets just assume the fact that there is a habitable system or planet outside our system or galaxy, but how the hell could we even get onto it? considering our technologic advances that we have now that are still obsolete for interstellar travel?




I'm a fan of the view that technological advances happen in starts (spurts) and you never know what breakthrough might be next. My phone is 100x more powerful than my parents' $3000 computer in 20 years ago.

But interstellar travel is so many orders of magnitude above where we currently stand, I'd assume we'll go through some kind of regression (major, destructive war) before we got there. You can measure it in millennia, not decades. Let's set about safely getting a crew to and from Mars before we get too itchy.
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