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re: When Health Workers say they are Exhausted and Overwhelmed...

Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:23 pm to
You are paid. But you likely have to come back to work in less than 12 hours. So less sleep for the nurse. Means they are likely to start off tired and more prone to making medical errors.

Posted by tigerstripedjacket
This side of the wall
Member since Sep 2011
3124 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:24 pm to
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Instead of crying about their situation, go work at a Schoolor another type ofeducation facility. Maybe change careers, you are obviously educated.


FIFY
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:29 pm to
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It’s not safe to have that many patients all the time.

That’s how massive errors happen.



I can see that, but that’s not the point of the thread. The point is how the nurse is affected, not the patient.
Posted by Thecoz
Member since Dec 2018
3784 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:31 pm to
the er docs i know do not need more money and would glady stop working so much and have a healthier nation...

people's lives involved here...yeah i had a stressfull job recommending were to drill a well and spend 20milion dollars...but no lives were on the line...these front line responders are on an entire different level of stress i can not even comprehend....nor could i have handled it...
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91265 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:31 pm to
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You are paid. But you likely have to come back to work in less than 12 hours. So less sleep for the nurse. Means they are likely to start off tired and more prone to making medical errors


Gotcha. Like I said earlier, I appreciate your responses. I’m not trying to flame, just trying to wrap my head around this being anything other than “my 12 hour shifts used to have a lot more free time in then then they do now.”
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
14529 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:32 pm to
Depends on what is going on during those 12 hours. There were 10 of us hospitalized with C19 in September. Over 40 now....they are hustling now
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5913 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:32 pm to
Had a male nurse tell me he was developing ptsd. He works at a small hospital with almost no cases
Posted by Bluegrass_Cat
GVL, SC
Member since Aug 2012
1634 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:32 pm to
There are some really really dumb responses in this thread. My wife is a travel nurse and has been paid very well this year to go from ICU to ICU around the country.

However I know she’s also been fricking exhausted. Pretty much what the other poster who is a nurse said is spot on. No the majority of them don’t want your sympathy. Just because a few you know bitch on social media doesn’t mean they all are like that.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:32 pm to
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The point is how the nurse is affected, not the patient.



Well it should be easy to understand that mentally and physically exhausted nurses aren’t gonna be at their best critical thinking skills.

Also...wears their immune systems down more, making them more susceptible to getting sick. Causing the unit to be even more short staffed.


You can’t just float any nurse in the hospital to help out in the ICU. It is a nursing speciality that requires a lot of special training and experience and good critical thinking skills.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:37 pm to
Not an ICU nurse. But all the ones I have known over the years are the least whiny nurses you will ever see on social media.

ICU nurses are a totally different breed. They are more likely to tell other nurses whining to STFU.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 9:37 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292969 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:40 pm to
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Had a male nurse tell me he was developing ptsd. He works at a small hospital with almost no cases

They've been worshipping the health care heroes (not the nurses fault) locally like its a religion, and we have had very few hospitalizations. In fact our hospital was damn near shut down.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:41 pm to
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Gotcha. Like I said earlier, I appreciate your responses. I’m not trying to flame, just trying to wrap my head around this being anything other than “my 12 hour shifts used to have a lot more free time in then then they do now.”


I think the issue is that normally ICU nurses have really bad shifts on occasion. They expect that and know how to deal with that. Shifts they are just overwhelmed and exhausted. It’s when it’s almost every single shift you work...that’s when it takes a toll. Knowing you are walking into that each and every shift, Feeling guilted into working extra when you really should have a day off to destress to help out cause you don’t want your coworkers to drown.


Posted by Bluegrass_Cat
GVL, SC
Member since Aug 2012
1634 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:42 pm to
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Not an ICU nurse. But all the ones I have known over the years are the least whiny nurses you will ever see on social media. ICU nurses are a totally different breed. They are more likely to tell other nurses whining to STFU.


Exactly. My wife literally hates the slurping the media is doing over nurses etc. She hasn’t made one social media post about it this year or anything. They know it’s hard work, but they’re getting paid damn good to deal with it. Doesn’t make seeing people die every day any easier but it’s just a fact they are being paid really well right now. The ones posting all over social media are probably not even true RNs, lol.
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
22830 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:43 pm to
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They are more likely to tell other nurses whining to STFU


Some will tell doctors the same thing, lol
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
292969 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:45 pm to
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My wife literally hates the slurping the media is doing over nurses etc.


Yep, nurses here are really low key. It's the virtue signalers doing the praising.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:46 pm to
Which is what makes them damn good ICU nurses


They aren’t scared of the docs and will question their orders if they feel something is off.

Which is good in a teaching hospital (like where I work at). Can help prevent possible major errors a new resident could make ever reach the patient.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
6653 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

Is flying a plane really all that hard?


IFR minimums approach in heavy rain or snow?

Yes
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107796 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:49 pm to
ICU workers always deal with 95% full units where people die constantly

The covid ICU survival is actually slightly higher than Overall ICU survival. So the workers are not seeing anymore death or workload. So that bullshite needs to die. One could argue the stress at the beginning was higher due to the panic of potentially catching the virus before survival rates were known
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107796 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 9:51 pm to
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Perhaps they are tired of watching more people die than usual?

ICU's at capacity?
Covid ICU survival is higher than Overall ICU survival and units are constantly close to capacity whether or not covid exists. You need to find new talking points

I guarantee you most of the “healthcare workers” complaining are those that never actually deal with covid patients, and most likely aren’t RNs or doctors at all......

ICU nurses and docs are rolling their eyes at them

quote:

ICU nurses are a totally different breed. They are more likely to tell other nurses whining to STFU.
just read your posts you nailed it

Most of our employees complaining the most about the humanity of working are those that don’t ever come close to covid patients. A shite ton work outside the hospital period
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 9:58 pm
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
11965 posts
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:40 pm to
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I don’t understand what good bitching and moaning about being tired is going to do.


It’s just something people seem to do for attention/small talk. Me personally, I hate small talk in general at work. I also can’t stand when people act like they’re there to make friends.
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