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re: When does the “blame everything on COVID” business model cease?
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:28 pm to JumpingTheShark
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:28 pm to JumpingTheShark
Yeah everyone seems to use it as an excuse. It sucks.
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Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:54 pm to JumpingTheShark
When I flew out of L.A. the other day there were a bunch of tanker ships just sitting out in the bay doing nothing.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:57 pm to JumpingTheShark
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Late shipping, no more above and beyond, back order, slow manufacturing process….all businesses just blame the pandemic and we are helpless to change it it seems.
What am I supposed to do about 50+ container ships parked off the coast of California thanks to Covid restriction and they can’t get enough workers down at the docks due to the bullshite of people staying at home eating government cheese for a year and a half. It’s not like I can get in a speed boat, go to the container, pick it up, and hand delivery it to you. Don’t blame me, blame Gavin Newsom and Eric Garcetti.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 4:59 pm to MorbidTheClown
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question: what do the ship's crew and workers do during this time? Are they getting paid to hang out off the coast? Or do they only get paid once the work starts?
Getting paid pretty much the whole time and are supplied by speed boats.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:00 pm to JumpingTheShark
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Late shipping, no more above and beyond, back order, slow manufacturing process….all businesses just blame the pandemic and we are helpless to change it it seems. Biggest cop out ever.
It's not just state side. Ports and factories around the world faced disruptions and were feeling the ripple effects from that and it will continues for quite sometime. Also, international air travel shut down, it really hampered the ability to ship thing via air freight. I think the number was around 70% of all air freight capacity disappeared last year because passenger planes stopped flying. That brought all those goods to the ports.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:04 pm to wadewilson
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ITT, there are two types of replies: those posted by people who understand supply chain, and hot takes.
When people like me asked (very first question) about the lockdown “What about the supply chains? It will take those months to get back up and running and as a result many will starve and die.” And it was just “Oh don’t worry about that. You’re overthinking it.” Anyone who is remotely intelligent that was the first thought that went through their heads. But most people are idiots and think this shite just falls out of the sky.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:05 pm to JumpingTheShark
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all businesses just blame the pandemic and we are helpless to change it it seems. Biggest cop out ever.
I said this in a similar thread the other day. HEB or Publix being out Gatorade or you having to wait for a table at an understaffed restaurant is not using COVID as an excuse. They legitimately can’t help what’s happening.
People shutting down production and being really slow to move product internationally (on top of the morons who decided to tax and regulate industry to the point that making our goods international was cheaper) because of “Covid” along with paying people to stay home and making them unevicatable is where your ire should be placed.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:07 pm to Mike da Tigah
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The cop out for me comes with accepting our doom
I didn’t accept it until last week when Newsom wasn’t recalled. He and Garcetti are fricking everyone in this country. It’s why your governor or mayor matters.
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and not coming up with alternative solutions to the problem like product substitution, dropping lines and picking up others, etc. Saying that’s just the way it is, is not going to get it. We have to be more creative than ever in finding temporary or even permanent answers to these problems.
OK, what is your solution for making Taiwanese computer chips, because it’s about to get even more fun when China invades Taiwan and then has additional power over us from that sphere?
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:09 pm to OMLandshark
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OK, what is your solution for making Taiwanese computer chips, because it’s about to get even more fun when China invades Taiwan and then has additional power over us from that sphere?
STOP MAKING IT MORE PROFITABLE TO MAKE shite ABROAD THAN TO MAKE IT HERE.
(Not directed at you. If any of our FBI overlords are listening, pass it on)
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:12 pm to 3nOut
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STOP MAKING IT MORE PROFITABLE TO MAKE shite ABROAD THAN TO MAKE IT HERE.
But we don’t have the skills nor facilities to do it. It’d take at least five years to do, and that’s not even accounting for the meddling bureaucracy. If these morons build it in California it won’t be up to code for another 25 years.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:16 pm to OMLandshark
Agreed. But if we just sit and wait for Taiwan to be invaded or pick back up production, we’re just waiting for the next supply chain interruption and then we’ll be yelling “why didn’t we start producing here?”
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:20 pm to 3nOut
quote:So...eliminate minimum wage, minimum age, maximum hours, and all standards of safe working and living conditions, and expect US workers to accept that?
STOP MAKING IT MORE PROFITABLE TO MAKE shite ABROAD THAN TO MAKE IT HERE.
Or, we don't eliminate those laws and just impose 500% tariffs on all imported goods and pass either cost on to the consumer. So now you’re paying $25 for a pair of socks, And your kids' sneakers that you have to replace at least once a year now cost $150 a pair.
That is what it will take to make it profitable for most consumer goods to be manufactured here. How much of that are you willing and able to deal with?
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:26 pm to 3nOut
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Agreed. But if we just sit and wait for Taiwan to be invaded or pick back up production, we’re just waiting for the next supply chain interruption and then we’ll be yelling “why didn’t we start producing here?”
Well we’re too late for this. China is fortifying every barge and ferry they can find and Chinese state media has already told Taiwan they’re going to invade. Taiwan will have fallen by 2024. The weather is great year round in Taiwan, so that’s not a factor. The factor is Trump or DeSantis being in the White House 2024 (inexcusable for any Republican to lose in 2024 to a Democrat after all this bullshite), so we’re already fricked when it comes to the chips.
This post was edited on 9/21/21 at 5:28 pm
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:29 pm to JumpingTheShark
The most popular phrase has become "You know, with Covid an everything"... Im serious, I hear people say this shite all the time.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:31 pm to OweO
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The most popular phrase has become "You know, with Covid an everything"... Im serious, I hear people say this shite all the time.
Covid for all intents and purposes is over. There’s the vaccine and monoclonal antibody treatment, so we’re done. Now it’s time to go after the politicians.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:46 pm to Gravitiger
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So...eliminate minimum wage, minimum age, maximum hours, and all standards of safe working and living conditions (which would cause the American labor force, such as it is, to completely crumble). Or impose 500% tariffs on all imported goods? Or just pass all that on to the consumer so you’re paying $25 for a pair of socks?
Honestly... a bit of all of them?
It’s easy to just say “oh it’s all too hard, let’s keep making everything abroad.” But we’re just going to keep exacerbating the issue by not addressing a lot of the things that lead to it.
The thing that you failed to mention was high corporate taxes, unions, and overregulation.
I’m not saying there shouldn’t be corporate taxes, unions, or regulation, but acting like everything else you listed is in a bubble is obtuse.
Posted on 9/21/21 at 5:49 pm to Gravitiger
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That is what it will take to make it profitable for most consumer goods to be manufactured here. How much of that are you willing and able to deal with?
So your solution is?
Posted on 9/21/21 at 6:02 pm to JumpingTheShark
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