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re: When building / adding onto a home - do you pay architect for a proposal?
Posted on 8/14/15 at 12:14 pm to SUB
Posted on 8/14/15 at 12:14 pm to SUB
We did not get charged for the initial meeting, but the architect charged us the minute they started drawing up a floor plan. So we owed them money before we had seen anything.
It was worth it in our case. Do your research ahead of time.
It was worth it in our case. Do your research ahead of time.
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Posted on 8/14/15 at 12:16 pm to DrEdgeLSU
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Did you expect that he would come out, do this assessment, and put together a proposal that you may or may not follow for free?
What do you do for a living? Do you offer that service to complete strangers for no charge?
My firm has this policy. I am an engineer. It's standard practice across the NYC area AFAIK. Everyone just chalks it up to the cost of doing business.
Let's put this another way- there are tons of RFP's put out by municipalities and state govts every year. For each job, multiple companies try to get the job and put out a proposal. Obviously only one company gets the job unless it's a joint venture. For the companies that don't get the job, do you think they bill each municipality for each job they don't get?
Posted on 8/14/15 at 12:17 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Let's put this another way- there are tons of RFP's put out by municipalities and state govts every year. For each job, multiple companies try to get the job and put out a proposal. Obviously only one company gets the job unless it's a joint venture. For the companies that don't get the job, do you think they bill each municipality for each job they don't get?
Exactly! I love the idiots that come in here spewing BS and have no clue what they are talking about.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 12:52 pm to NYNolaguy1
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I don't like this. Unless the draftsman has either a PE or RA stamp, that's a bad idea.
The op is doing a residential addition, not building a skyscraper.
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I mean if you want the project to go off the books without permits or inspections, that's up to you, but you will be dealing with possible zoning fines, shoddy workmanship, and no legal recourse against anyone if the project goes badly.
Who said anything about off the books? I suggested the op get bids from multiple contractors. As in licensed general contractors. Getting an architect involved in a home, unless it's a multi-million dollar home, is a waste of money. And you should look up the state laws on residential construction. There's plenty of recourse on shoddy construction.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 1:06 pm to SUB
I built a 2 story house and subbed every aspect out myself. I used a draftsmen for plans. No architect was involved. I never paid for a single quote and no one got paid until work was completed. If a contractor wants otherwise I would move on. Too many quality people out there that will work with you.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 1:31 pm to crimsonsaint
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The op is doing a residential addition, not building a skyscraper.
This is what I'm saying. Hiring an architect for that is overkill. But whatever, his money. I'm sure the architects are gonna chime in and say "oh no, it's a great idea."
Posted on 8/14/15 at 1:33 pm to crimsonsaint
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There's plenty of recourse on shoddy construction.
Sure there is, but having approved stamped plans with a building permit helps out your case dramatically vs not having them. Without them, you're at the contractor's mercy. How are they supposed to know what to do without direction? Sure, they can wing it, and in a lot of small projects, that's fine. My point though is that it's to the owner's advantage to have clear plans he can refer back to in case the contractor deviates from it. Same thing with design notes and specs. Using improper materials can make or break a project.
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Getting an architect involved in a home, unless it's a multi-million dollar home, is a waste of money.
This is the OT, right?
Posted on 8/14/15 at 1:36 pm to crimsonsaint
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I'd dump the architect. Find a draftsman that will do the plans for you. Once you've got the plans done get a couple of contractors to bid it.
real answer...and a lot cheaper in most cases
Posted on 8/14/15 at 1:38 pm to SUB
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major renovations
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$100
Posted on 8/14/15 at 2:48 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Wow, really? I went to high school and college in LA, but never practiced there. In every jurisdiction I have done engineering for, an engineering stamp is almost always required to get a building permit. The only exception was when we were working for a governmental agency.
So you're saying if Bob the draftsman put together a structural framing and foundation plan, that even though he's not a licensed engineer or architect, he would have no issue getting a permit?
Residential and small commercial you do not need a stamp. But you do on larger scale commercial.
Posted on 8/14/15 at 2:50 pm to djangochained
quote:Why does this board always use this line of thinking? Maybe he has plenty of money but he just doesnt want to waste $100. Seems logical to me
You are planning a "major renovation" and you are worried about 100$? You should reevaluate your decision
This post was edited on 8/14/15 at 2:51 pm
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