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re: when / why did women start thinking men want a "strong, independent, career driven" woman?

Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:10 pm to
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:10 pm to
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Sounds like you have a strong wife that commits her time independent of you, and has made motherhood and community service her career.


That's how we look at it.

Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
4580 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:10 pm to
The better question is why did women stop caring about what men want? Contrary to women of 50's, 60's and 70's, a "strong, independent, career driven" woman could care less what any man thinks her role should be in society.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37284 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:11 pm to
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It certainly can't be argued that women entering the work force en masse lead to lower wages.



When women entered the workforce en masse wages were actually climbing at the quickest rates in history. The stagnant wage growth that we've been experiencing since the 80s or so has no more to do with women as it does men.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:11 pm to
It’s impossible because wages have lowered do to a doubling of the amount of employees. Not to mention politicians bringing in more potential employees (immigrants) which lowered them even more
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37284 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:12 pm to
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It’s impossible because wages have lowered do to a doubling of the amount of employees. Not to mention politicians bringing in more potential employees (immigrants) which lowered them even more


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Collegedropout


Checks out. Grammatical errors and idiotic takes.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:12 pm to
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we'll make millions of dollars and travel around the world

Good goy, this is truly the meaning of life
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
58518 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:13 pm to
I’m gonna find a nice lady doctor that’s like this close to discovering the cure for aids or that helps sick poor people or something and I’m gonna make her retire to raise kids
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:14 pm to
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I'm totally down with a "strong, independent, career driven" woman. We won't have kids, we'll make millions of dollars and travel around the world on our private jet, looking down on the poor guys about to get divorced with kids who will grow up to have a career behind a cash register.



Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3182 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:15 pm to
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Most don’t understand how freeing it is to embrace our natural roles


Exactly! That's why instead of buying food I make my wife forage through the woods all day searching for nuts and berries.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:16 pm to
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When women entered the workforce en masse wages were actually climbing at the quickest rates in history. The stagnant wage growth that we've been experiencing since the 80s or so has no more to do with women as it does men.



It's simple supply and demand my man. If there are 50 potential employees an employer can offer $X an hour and find a person to take the job. If there are 5 employees available (we're of course talking about qualified for the job they are seeking) then the employer will likely have to offer $X * 10 to hire a qualified candidate. This is why, for example. NFL quarterbacks are higher paid than offensive lineman.

It's the same reason illegal immigration drives down wages.
Posted by TheIndulger
Member since Sep 2011
19323 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:17 pm to
It’s gotta be kind of tough to be a career woman in the us. You spend all this time in your 20’s getting degrees and trying to advance your career, then you have babies and have to take off of work for a while, then try to juggle raising your child while also working on your career.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
22466 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:17 pm to
I want a strong, career driven woman who is otherwise dependent on me. That way, I get to stay home and watch TV.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:19 pm to
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I want a strong, career driven woman who is otherwise dependent on me. That way, I get to stay home and watch TV.




LOL THere is in fact a small subset of women who are higher ups in their chosen profession who enjoy being totally dominated in their personal lives.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61304 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:19 pm to
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Exactly! That's why instead of buying food I make my wife forage through the woods all day searching for nuts and berries.





I know many awesome woman that amaze me with their ability to be career driven and still be able to be great mothers and wives.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:20 pm to
Welfare. Why would a women care for a man when she can live off the government? The government is the new father.
It’s also somewhat of a social change, because men before and after the 60s seem to be pretty different.
Men born after the 60s generally don’t care if their women works, because they need the extra shekels so they can drive their new car, have a big fancy house, etc.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:20 pm to
I stayed up until 7 am and just woke up, don’t give a frick about grammatical errors
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:21 pm to
(All immigration drives down wages)
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37284 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:22 pm to
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It's simple supply and demand my man


Right. Women entered the workforce 40 or so years ago and shifted the supply curve left. The demand curve has since adjusted back to equilibrium raising the number of jobs, gdp, consumption, etc, etc. Then in the last 20-30 years we've seen an exponential increase in automation, globalization, and migrant workers. So, like I said, wage stagnation we are experiencing now has just to much to do with men as it does women as the supply and demand curves have already shifted horizontally to incorporate women.

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This is why, for example. NFL quarterbacks are higher paid than offensive lineman. 


Terrible example as it's not capitalistic and there can't bust be expansion at will so it artificially raises wages.
This post was edited on 10/2/18 at 2:23 pm
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61304 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:23 pm to
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Welfare. Why would a women care for a man when she can live off the government? The government is the new father.


Damn, some of you all must live in some trashy places and know only stupid people. Such a messed up view of society.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37284 posts
Posted on 10/2/18 at 2:24 pm to
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All immigration drives down wages


Not necessarily, especially in real wages, if there is a labor shortage
This post was edited on 10/2/18 at 2:25 pm
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