re: What's the greatest jungle cat?

I'm not a big fan of the lion either. bunch of lazy arse's that steal from others to survive simply b/c they are bigger than everyone else.

As a kid, you're kind of lead to believe hyenas are the bad guys. Lion King helps with that as well. But the more you read up on lions, the more you realize they are more like what you thought the hyena was like than the actual hyena. they kill hyenas just for the hell of it. they kill cheetahs just for the hell of it, even though if they were smart, they'd want them alive so they can catch the animal and then steal it from them.

They are nothing but bullies. over half of the food they eat is stolen from someone else or from an animal that is on it's last breath. They aren't good hunters at all. The vast majority of the time you see lions and hyenas fighting over a kill, the hyena is the one that made the kill.

I'm know. Bet you want that time wasted back.

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steal from others to survive simply b/c they are bigger than everyone else.

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That happens a lot though. Bald eagles do it to young eagles and ospreys all the time, and that's our national symbol.

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they kill hyenas just for the hell of it. they kill cheetahs just for the hell of it

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Pretty much all predators kill the predators smaller than themselves, be it for territory or competition for some prey items. As Mel Brooks made famous in "History of the World...," it's good to be the king.

Take here in the United States for example. Part of the reason we have so many raccoons, skunks, and possums is because the wolf has been extirpated from most of its range. That is also what has helped the coyote expand its range east.

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Fact is the full grown grizzly in a one on one fight would destroy every other animal on the planet except maybe a polar bear if fought on ice. Any other place and it destroys them too.

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An elephant or hippo would stomp a grizzly.

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Four tigers stalking an animal together in a jungle setting is a world of difference than 4 lions chasing a gazelle across a open grassland.

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If Tigers hunted together, then you'd see them have to kill elephants and other large mammals, like lions do, to feed the 3000lbs worth of 4 tigers hunting together.

4 Lions aren't chasing gazelles. A gazelle is barely enough meat for one lion, much less 4, and lions don't have the stamina to catch fast animals, which is why you see them scavenge so much.

Liono for the win

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I just think this was more of a mano e mano hypothetical.

1 of each animal in a Bloodsport tournament.

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Perhaps the overall point of some of these arguments are, but the statement you quoted of mine was in regards to "apex predators" by continent. In which case, wolves hunting in packs is valid to that conversation.

I have never said, anywhere, that a wolf or African wild dog is a one on one match for a tiger or lion.

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Look at this giant pussy hiding from a bunch of cows

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Those cows are actually cape buffalo, considered extremely dangerous because of their mass and aggression.

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Those cows are actually cape buffalo, considered extremely dangerous because of their mass and aggression.

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No fricking shite? Hmm...do you think that's why they were never domesticated by the peoples of Africa?

I also hear that Cape buffalo are considered to be part of Africa's Big Five of dangerous game when it comes to hunting. I was surprised to hear this, because I just assumed they were docile cows. And considering the other four are the lion, leopard, elephant, and black rhino, how does a cow fit into that list, eh?





Of course I know what those animals are, it was a joke trying to point out that lions don't dominate everything like one poster seemed to be claiming.